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For the people that say that compare gay marriage to incestual marriage why not compare heterosexual marriage to incestual marriage? Argument goes both ways...
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who are you to deny a brother and sister the right to get married?
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brother and sisters should not marry and stuff....thats wrong
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now seriously... who determines what is reasonable and acceptable? i don't think it was determined by a popular vote. your values are being writen by someone you didn't even elect.
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Thanks, Claire, for saying EXACTLY what I was going to say on this topic of incest - have you ever seen an inbred dog? What if we had millions of people like that? As if physical and mental illnesses aren't hard enough to deal with already!
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and I should note that I'm personally not against same-sex marriages... I just try to get an understanding from both sides of the fence, because picking one side without observing the other, to me, is ignorance... edit: also... if incestuous marriages cause defects in offspring, adoption is always an option... Last edited by (val)Liam; Dec 11, 04 at 08:52 PM.
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Do you hear what you're saying? I understand where you are coming from but if everyone thought like you the world would never change. Women and blacks still wouldn't be voting if everone thought like that. Sure crazys that want to marry their dog might come out of the wood work because of this but does that mean everyone should lose out?
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it works both ways. you can get really fucked kids, but you can get some seriously gifted kids as well. the whole genetic argument is bogus too. don't we allow people with mental diseases have kids when it's been proven a lot of them are hereditary? Last edited by Psycho_Laughs; Dec 13, 04 at 02:41 AM.
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our society has certainly shifted. we've gone from so-called 'Democracy' to liberalism which threatens to bury us all. somehow, minorities have gained a perogative over the majority and any attempt to address this imbalance is called 'oppression.' In Holland where i was recently based is probably the most fucked up liberal country in the world. this is a society where the ruling elite force their agenda on the other 97% of population and when we don't act favorably, we're met with labels like 'xenophobia' 'racism' 'sexism' 'bigotry' etc. Recently there was a Morrocan woman whose sons got deported from the country for being sexual predators. for reasons i can't fathom, they gave her a press conference and she's hurling insults at Holland saying that it's full of Nazis, it's Hateful, Bigotted, Racist country, because it won't accept the 'reality' of a multi-racial, multi-cultural country and that it has NO RIGHT to DISCRIMINATE or impose a 'racist' white culture upon minorities. :140: We're talking about a woman who has ZERO ties with the country (she's speaking through a translator and lawyer no less!) from a Third World country trying to dictate the foreign policy of a SOVEREIGN country and the media is giving her the platform to do it! the politicians were actually debating this shit, and coming up with 'solutions' as to how make Holland a more accomodating and multi-cultural country! Sorry for offending your family! We most definately appreciate your nasty culture, violent sexual crime, and decaying ghettos! How can we be of better service? HOLY FUCKING SHIT. For the last decade or so people have been complaining bitterly and gritting their teeth about Muslims, and instead of giving a shit, they impose ever harsher Political Correctness onto the point where you can be fucking arrested if you criticize immigration in any way shape or form. Amsterdam might as well be a foreign capital, because honestly the Dutch people only go to school or work there, but they have mostly moved the fuck out. It's pretty much on par with Londonistan and the rest of the city looking like a giant Richmond. Japanese tourists are usually quite disappointed. All the while, you've got these liberals who represent minority lobby groups coming on TV with messages like "Holland is a country committed to Diversity and Tolerance!" (you know, like Yugoslavia or South Africa! :)) Thanks politicians for dictating our values! I used to think that Amsterdam was a multi-racial hell hole, but I remember now, we're committed to this Diversity thing! These social engineers who wax poetic about unconditional love and 'tolerance' have single handedly and unilaterally rolled out the red carpet for a foreign invasion and created conditions where the country is a fucking powder keg and a race war can happen at any time. They don't call it Eurabia for nothing. As of now, the government just can't represent the Dutch people of Holland anymore because, you know, they're white, and that would be racist!!! :066: P.S. Any parrallels you see with Canada and Holland are purely coincidental. We wouldn't want to arrive at the wrong conclusions now would we? :) Last edited by wum; Dec 13, 04 at 10:52 AM.
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I think it's safe to say that generally, people who are pro same-sex marriages were not "taught" to feel this way, rather, they formed their own opinions based on their own observations and feelings. IMO, many of the people who oppose same-sex marriages have been taught to feel this way since they were children, and were never able to form their own opinion due to the pressure of their religion.
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It was a court declaring it was unconstitutional, which is accurate, and is within the supreme court's jurisdiction. Remember, the supreme court also declared that religions had the freedom to choose wether or not they wished to bless these unions, which not only separates church and state as it should, but provides further freedom of religion (how cool is that?) The actual decision on the law and wether or not it will follow through is due to be decided by your very own elected members of parlaiment as early as January. So people elected by the people will ultimately make this decision. Remember folks, years ago it was probably illegal, and most certainly frowned upon by the church for people of different races to marry. I feel that the whole issue with segregation of races was definitely a defining issue for our parents generation which has been overcome, and I think the equal rights/respect of homosexuals is going to be a huge one for ours- hopefully.
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