drum and bass is better than trance

[GSG9]

ill agree pendulum helped kill it. but dnb deffinitely has taken some twists and turns the past few years. and i would say hospital records is on the forefront of it.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by GSG9

ill agree pendulum helped kill it. but dnb deffinitely has taken some twists and turns the past few years. and i would say hospital records is on the forefront of it.

Hospital used to be full of killer tunes. In the last year though there have been a number of "ho-hum" and "meh" releases.

Fokuz has a lot of goodness on it though.

There's also a fair bit of up-and-coming talent in the production world that is going to make the next couple years interesting I think. If the Brookes Brothers are any indication.

[Bevvy Swift]

i couldnt disagree more. but yea this argument is as dead as dnb.

not to say i dont still love it but new stuff just doesnt WOW me like it used to. my 2 pennies.

[tiedye]

I don't care if I heard the track 2 years ago or am listening to it for the first time... I listen to music from the 50s on a daily basis. Often times I listen to music from the 1800s. It's all vibration and there's nothing I vibe with better on the dancefloor than dnb.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Bevvy Swift

i couldnt disagree more. but yea this argument is as dead as dnb.

not to say i dont still love it but new stuff just doesnt WOW me like it used to. my 2 pennies.

you need to do more jib

[j3rk]

Who knew? ... And where are these girls!?

and what the fuck happened in 2006!

[Erin]

Originally Posted by tiedye

I don't care if I heard the track 2 years ago or am listening to it for the first time... I listen to music from the 50s on a daily basis. Often times I listen to music from the 1800s. It's all vibration and there's nothing I vibe with better on the dancefloor than dnb.

Although I don't listen to music from the 1800s, I couldn't agree with you more on everything else you said. :)

[GSG9]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

Hospital used to be full of killer tunes. In the last year though there have been a number of "ho-hum" and "meh" releases.

Fokuz has a lot of goodness on it though.

There's also a fair bit of up-and-coming talent in the production world that is going to make the next couple years interesting I think. If the Brookes Brothers are any indication.

yea they have been in a tad lul... but at the same time the sound they are doing right now is still moving. hospital has succesfully taken dnb out of the nasty paranoid angry phase and is sort of bringing it back to the fun happy phase again. mistabishi talks about it in the latest podcast and he says "drum n bass just sounds better when it smiles"

as for the brookes brothers. two thumbs up. love em. and yea i am looking forward to seeing where things go the next few years as well. that is, as long as dubstep doesnt take over the world.

[dabbler]

fuck i hated hospital for awhile, and only got back into their vibe in the last 18 months ish with all the sick rollers that nu:tone and logistics are dropping. It's no longer just a piano and bass label

[tiedye]

The benefit of this low period in Vancouver is it gives the heavy supporters a chance to network before the next wave picks up and suddenly everyone's a fan again. This will help develop a stronger core like the one that existed during the Automatic Tuesdays era. Hopefully that means that when the genre is on fire again, promoters won't be throwing big shows on the same night and fighting for attention like they were when I moved away.

[Phrenetic]

I enjoy DNB because its the Amen Break over and over again!

[t-skywalker]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

I enjoy DNB because its the Amen Break over and over again!

amen break.....mmmmmm:love:

i love old school trance. im really old school so go figure. but not fond of the new stuff so much. dnb is pretty dope, but im picky. i love dark dnb. evol, ed209,black sun empire etc. i also love dubstep alot too<3:nuts:

[GSG9]

Originally Posted by dabbler

fuck i hated hospital for awhile, and only got back into their vibe in the last 18 months ish with all the sick rollers that nu:tone and logistics are dropping. It's no longer just a piano and bass label

mitsabishi and craggz are my favorite under the label. mitsa has put out some down right stompers in his short time there, and i am going to pay heavy attention to his career.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by Bevvy Swift

not really. like whats his name said, lots of dnb producers are turning to dubstep, house or even mashup and glitch shit. and like the other guy said. dnb is dead. pendulum killed it.

and john b helped a little.

i call bullshit. d'n'b producers have been producing other genres the whole time. a perfect example is the metalheadz box set. i think people are noticing it more now because the information is able to reach them faster (drum'n'bass has always sucked at teh internetz).

d'n'b producers have always been interested in other music. it's essential to drum'n'bass more than any other genre, i'd say, because drum'n'bass isn't defined by a sound or a vibe like house or punk. it's an open format: breakbeats at 170+ and a bassline. that's why it's been able to change and evolve more than any other electronic genre. you could make country d'n'b if you wanted.

[kir mokum]

and i disagree that d'n'b is dead in this city. there may be a lack of big headliners, but that's not where the scene is. i've been enjoying d'n'b shows a lot more in the last year than years previous. for me i think that has a lot to do with "obligation" not being a reason to go out anymore and i think that may be true for a lot of people. i don't feel a have to support so-and-so, or the scene, or have to check out big wig 'cause their big. i go out to have fun and i've been seeing a lot more of that in crowds as well lately, which is good. if you're not there to enjoy yourself, then stay home.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by dabbler

fuck i hated hospital for awhile, and only got back into their vibe in the last 18 months ish with all the sick rollers that nu:tone and logistics are dropping. It's no longer just a piano and bass label

for sure! nu:tone has been destroying it with the tunes! the quality of tunes coming out certainly has been increasing as of late. browsing through redeye i find my "to-buy" list getting bigger and bigger.

[Senior]

I could have sworn this horse died a long time ago!

[Senior]

and why does it have to be either???? Hot Chip sold out the Commodore the other night and were awesome!

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

(drum'n'bass has always sucked at teh internetz).

precisely the opposite actually, drum and bass peeps were (and still are)
ahead of the game for internet promoting, sharing, chatting and swapping tunes.

[kir mokum]

how's the metalheadz website coming along?


i could be wrong, but srsly, the labels and whatnot are terrible and have been as long as i can remember. dnbarena has been glitchy from the get-go and most labels have very little relevant content, are always late with info, go down for months to years at a time, if they have a website at all, in my experience. i know you dug into d'n'b a lot harder than i did so i'd take your word for it. or are you simply referring to online communities/fans/DJs?

[dabbler]

well yeah that's really what i am talking about. the dnb scene rather than the labels. labels with no money are always behind on everything ;)

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by Erin

You do know there is a whole big world outside of Vancouver right? :D

Been living in Osaka for the last year, Electro everywhere but Dnb is pretty small.

[kir mokum]

d'n'b has never been that big in jpn, to my knowledge.

th real question is how big do you want it to be? there's a lot of negatives for such a genre being "big".

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by ppcock

let's just put this on the table.. not just to erin.
but, i love dnb, it sure is dead.. i mean, metalheadz at the met? please!

you mean rolodex? there's also visionary and diesel boy coming up.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

you mean rolodex? there's also visionary and diesel boy coming up.

exactly my point. are there any new dnb headliners being booked in this town? nope. because the dnb "heads" will only go out to see a headliner theyve already seen 100 times, while the other kids are just there to party and like lots of bass, they dont give a shit whos spinning.

dnb being dead in van doesnt mean its non existent, its just not going anywhere anymore.

all im saying.