DJ's ain't real musician's

[Clayton.]

That's right.

What do ya'll got to say about that eh?


Exception to producer's of course.

Luv Ever. :c-tard:

[Krusha]

wow you're discovering america :PartEkid:

[Clayton.]

Originally posted by Krusha
wow you're discovering america :PartEkid:

ok sure. :c-tard:

[taylormade]

yeah thats right........good thing my computer is almost set.

this is why i need my fix of playin in a punk band.......

hey Krusha......don't go anywhere....u belong to ME :keebler:

-jeff-

[Lady Dame]

honestly, i agree with you...
my reason being: that Dj's are just taking something produced(inevitably meaning created) by someone else,mixing it with another track by another artist and calling it his own.
Dj's are not musicians, they are creative artists... you have the inventor.. who created the original idea, then you have an innovator.. who takes something that is already invented and makes it better.
Dj's are muscial innovators.
Good Dj's are hard to find, but a dime a dozen, a good producer/masterer is extremly rare to find.
hence my point... djs are not musicians.

if i took motzarts 5th symphony and mixed it with some drums and snares... does that make me a musician, no. makes me an innovator.

[decypher]

unless u can scratch really well..

[vangroover]

Would you say a band that only plays covers arnt real musicians?

[Moon]

what do you define as a musician? someone who can play a musical instrument like the piano?

maybe yeah sure but think about it this way, someone can play the piano, violin, guitar the way their teachers trained them to do so but have no musical input what so ever, just technicality.

and yeah djs play other peoples music, but a set is made by the dj. some djs just put together their newest tracks, or throw down party rockers to get the place moving, but some also put in their musical side of thing and mix and arrange the music in a way that a distinct sound and flow can emerge.

just like an instrument with nerdy fucks with parents forcing them to play the piano like a robot, many djs can either have a technical side or a musical side.

[decypher]

^^^ true...

[Van Tek]

DJ's aren't musicians unless they get all crazy with their cutting until their records turn into their own original music
Turntablists however, ARE musicians
It's just like a band or a producer who uses samples of other peoples' music to make new music... Turntables use samples off records to make their own brand of music out of em!

[Senior]

Originally posted by Thanatos:
DJ's aren't musicians unless they get all crazy with their cutting until their records turn into their own original music
Turntablists however, ARE musicians
It's just like a band or a producer who uses samples of other peoples' music to make new music... Turntables use samples off records to make their own brand of music out of em!

Basically what I was going to say...

For anyone who thinks a DJ isn't a musician go see the scratch tour.

[kodama-jay]

the best examples are DJ CLUE... and PAUL OAKENFOOL!!!

neither of them do anything to make the track theirs

"DJ CLUE-CLUE-CLUE"

[Doctor Nick]

Anyone notice that everyone666 is just trying to start shit?

Why give him the satisfaction?

[Veni*C]

Originally posted by Doctor Nick
Anyone notice that everyone666 is just trying to start shit?

Why give him the satisfaction?

^^ word to that adrian..i dont even have time to argue with him on this one right now..mabie later...i gotta get some food...hehe.

[Rytalin]

yeah.

in other news...
ABORTIONS ARE AWESOME


:moon: :finger: :moon:

[Rytalin]

To be a good DJ, you have to have a good knowledge of what sounds good, and what types of music go well into other types.

So does a musician.

The difference is, a musician needs to know HOW to make those good sounds, and then to train himself to make them on an instrument.

A DJ just needs to listen to lots of music and learn how operate turntables and a mixer.

[taylormade]

i dunno.....i've been playin' guitar since i was 12
i know what a musician is......
Yes, if a dj is some crazy dmc pro.......yes def. a musician.
But i dunno.....i've been spinning records fer like 4 yrs, and i can't say i've fully started producing yet, but when it comes to spinning records i do believe that people with a musical background will have a much better idea of how it work, ie structure, bars, timing etc.

But sometimes spinning seems more like a video game. :c-tard:

-jeff-

oh yeah....and check this out......

[Clayton.]

Hell yea dmc's and turntabilist's are musician's those guy's got mad skill with beat juggleing, cutting, scratching, and shit.

HIP HOP is best. :c-tard:

[Sean]

I think that depends on your definition of Musician. Your average DJ that plays for 500 people on a regular basis most likely isn't as skilled as your average violinist that plays for 500 people on a weekly basis; THAT I'll agree with.

[Cinto]

don't know where I fall into play here? but I Dj obviously, try to sometimes. lol , I produce lots of styles of music. I've been playing the drums since I was in grade 3 and I tough myself how to sort of play the piano.,..

Musician maybe not, talented some may think so? but someone who loves music and what he can do with it. FUCK YEAH!

lol

C to the I to the N T O

[Sykonee]

Originally posted by k-pryde:
what do you define as a musician? someone who can play a musical instrument like the piano?

maybe yeah sure but think about it this way, someone can play the piano, violin, guitar the way their teachers trained them to do so but have no musical input what so ever, just technicality.

and yeah djs play other peoples music, but a set is made by the dj. some djs just put together their newest tracks, or throw down party rockers to get the place moving, but some also put in their musical side of thing and mix and arrange the music in a way that a distinct sound and flow can emerge.

just like an instrument with nerdy fucks with parents forcing them to play the piano like a robot, many djs can either have a technical side or a musical side.

Quoted because it needed repeating.

In addition, just like a cover artist, a good DJ can learn to improvise within a set (layering tracks to create new songs; additional looping and scratching techniques; etc).

And, just because it needed re-viewing... :c-tard:

[Van Tek]

that DID need re-viewing
the first time wasn't quite enough, but on the second go, I had to change the pants
LoL

[Sean]

Dj's are not musicians, they are creative artists... you have the inventor.. who created the original idea, then you have an innovator.. who takes something that is already invented and makes it better.

The same can be said for your average pro-pianist who plays a Beethoven piano sonata. Is Artur Liebenstein not a musician either? Is the conductor of the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra not a musician too?

Essentially what you're saying is that the only musicians are composers, which I think your average member of an orchestra will thoroughly disagree with.

[Moon]

Originally posted by Sean


The same can be said for your average pro-pianist who plays a Beethoven piano sonata. Is Artur Liebenstein not a musician either? Is the conductor of the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra not a musician too?

Essentially what you're saying is that the only musicians are composers, which I think your average member of an orchestra will thoroughly disagree with.

werd up

[Revolver]

DJS ARE NOT MUSICIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, whats there to discuss.

dj's who argue the fact are making themselves feel more important.