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Oct 30, 04
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it's ok though, once you're eligible i will constantly give you bad karma. 
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Random thoughts...
- to everyone P.O.'ed at the "powers-that-be" for causing this and that want to write a letter to the appropriate governmental department/authority, first off do it rather than just wanting to do it; secondly, when the time comes around (if you are of age), vote! Even though there likely won't be a "pro-rave" candidate, regardless of the level of government, some candidates and/or parties are bigger believers in regulations, red tape, and closing things down than others. And it appears that what happened here was, more than anything, a result of the arbitrary application of regulations. Essentially someone "up there" just changed their mind. Even if you are under 18, you can be informed and try to influence the votes of your parents, friends over 18, etc. - I think what happened here was shitty and by no means Twisted's fault, at least not directly. They started off trying to accomplish something, a large-scale, reasonably central party featuring world-class talent. This meant what would likely be a new venue, or giving up the "reasonably central" part. I personally might question tackling the challenges of new venues with a party with a reputation and following like Spooky, but at the end of the day it ain't my company. I'm sure everyone's week at Twisted would have been a lot better if this hadn't happened and they've all got more grey hairs this week then all of last year trying to do their best. - That said, people need to realize that for those under 19, this show was effectively cancelled. With it happening under a week before Oct. 30th, Doom's Night ticket prices were climbing faster than Bre-X mining shares. And now 15/16/17/18 year olds who in some cases likely put in a lot to get the money for a Spooky ticket, have to pay a second time and be out money they don't have for what looks like about a month (Nov.15 + 1 week to process + 1 week mailing?). These aren't people with credit cards and lines of credit, but often people working after school jobs for shit money. - It may be "just a party", but as Kraig has said, "Spooky Is Halloween" ... honestly, I think Halloween and New Year's are the two biggest party nights of the year, and under 19s just had the rug pulled out from under them. Lets see how you feel if you show up on Saturday to find them already at capacity, cops won't let anyone else in, but you are still promised a refund within a few weeks. (I'm by no means wishing or implying that this will happen, just trying to turn the tables of thought for a moment.) - Personally, I'm less than happy. I chose Spooky over Doom's Night because the line ups were of similar quality given my own preferences, Spooky was within walking distance (no cab fare or sketchy drives/parking BS/etc), and it seemed as though most of my friends would be there. Now its fewer performers, shorter duration, most friends are going to Doom's (my work schedule this week caused me to learn of events only Thursday with no real time to start chasing tickets, esp. given their prices and the potential for frauds if I don't know the seller), at a 2 rooom venue, one room being Plush (which I detest and could burn to the ground -on Sunday!- and I wouldn't shed a tear) coupled with drunks, drink lineups and (since nothing to the contrary has been posted) drink prices set somewhere between gouging and exhorborant, and no refund forthcoming as I bought my ticket for $50 and it has been mentioned by Kraig that those who paid $55 and up would be given partial refunds (despite the fact that same tix are now $35). I'm trying to stay positive since I am looking forward to Lisa Lashes, and I suppose it may give me the chance to meet new peeps, etc, but it ain't easy. I suspect that I will be disappointed when I compare the night to what Spooky could have been or to what Doom's night would have been had I gone, but I'm hopeful that my time will be good enough that such thoughts don't occupy too much mental energy. I'd say that's my 2 cents worth, but really it seems more like a buck seventy five...
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Oct 30, 04
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after hearing about push/rank 1 i feel very disappointed cuz i refused to ditch spooyk when al lmy frinds ditched it for doomsa and now everyon is going to dooms and i stayed with spooky for rank 1 and push...and only for them....so it really sucks...but ill be so hammered it doesnt matter.....good luck twisted...hope this doesnt fuck up your rep or anyhting...but damn.....PARTY TIME!!!
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Oct 30, 04
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http://www.fnk.ca/board/showpost.php...&postcount=311 Cheers.
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Last year Spooky was in the barns...not THEEEE biggest turnout like PLaza, but still there was a reasonable turnout(many people disappointed the venue was not in Vancouver)..this year Spooky gets put in the clubs, and there should hopefully be a reasonable turnout..I mean...with less top headliners...Spooky goes clubbing this year (indirectly) and with things downsizing last minute, you would expect many 19+ people to bail because of this. Hence from what I have read thus far is true :(
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Oct 31, 04
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It seems that whenever u have bad news its like pulling teeth to get info. People just want the straight up facts not silence. And while im on the topic, how come all the spooky threads are buried in the sub group while all the dooms night threads are in the main parties/promos group? Also, why isnt the twisted web site ever updated with this kind of info so I dont have to hunt through fnk to find out what is going on?
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Oct 31, 04
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I have often wondered about the twisted website myself? I think they need a Myles to keep things running more smoothly there too ;) heheh, just my thoughts on it :)
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Oct 31, 04
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two rooms of trance?? not everyone in vancouver listens to trance. this is bullshit and if your making it 80% trance to increase doorsales to a certain partier type, good luck. if they have any common sence, they will try to get dooms tickets. i have to say, i am let down. the least you could have done was cut your losses, and kept some GOOD local talent for us to see, not the expensive "headliners" that i bet half the attendants could care less about. i never thought i would say this, but i wish i had chose doomsnight.
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Oct 31, 04
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back to the question at hand....
2nd room..wuts goin on w/ it? -- i really didnt want to find out over a forum but its the only way it seems.
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Oct 31, 04
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The show starts early at 9PM and runs late to 4AM possibly later. As for timeslots, that I don't have! Sorry! 
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Oct 31, 04
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This is gonna be a wicked night, marathon sets from two wicked trance headliners, I'm sooo stoked now. Will be there with bells on and crew in tow filming this show. Can't hardly wait. Props to Kraig, Azim, & Salim for pulling this off despite MASS complications courtesy of the city. Just as Spooky is the spirit of Halloween, Twisted will always be a part of the spirit of Vancouver :)
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Oct 31, 04
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OK, I am an understanding person... but I will not be attending this event now that PUSH and RANK 1 are no longer playing. How can I get my money back??? I bought my ticket for the sole purpose of seeing these 2 acts. I bought my ticket a long time ago, so it was not $55+ and I'm not under 19. I'd still like my money back.
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