EXTREMELY Important SPOOKY/CARGO Update - Page 11

KenJi · #**251** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Playboybuny

Ya i knew this would happen...u speak ur mind and u get told off. I know its not there fault...but fuck, there sure makin it look like it. I dont know what goes on. But what happened really makes me mad. So im letting evreyone know. Why cant it still happen till 4am, but no alcohol....Why did u have to make it a 19+ party?? DIDnt they think about the people like me that still want to go... I want to go but because im only 18, so close to 19, i cant go cause of alcohol! I think i have a right to be a little pissed off. Cause now u guys have it ur way. U can drink all night and not have to drink before the party and thats it. I go to raves cause i love the music. Its the only place i can hear it cause i dont know where to find it. But now i will end up going to Dooms night and listen to the music i dont really enjoy. thats if i can get a ticket...who knows about that. Dont hate on me cause im speakin my mind.

You might be speaking your mind, but your not speaking in any sense at all. There's this thing, called a CITY COUNCIL!!! You know they decide on certain thing, certain extensions, certain permits.

Sometimes the city choses to go against what we may think is reasonable, its only a party anyways, and you'll get your money back.

Man its like the world ended thanx to twisted, except in all honesty this was out of twisted's hands from the beginning.

Don't put the blame on the first thing or company that pops into your head. Look at the real picture.

~Sc@ndelu$~ · #**252** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by KenJi

You might be speaking your mind, but your not speaking in any sense at all. There's this thing, called a CITY COUNCIL!!! You know they decide on certain thing, certain extensions, certain permits.

Sometimes the city choses to go against what we may think is reasonable, its only a party anyways, and you'll get your money back.

Man its like the world ended thanx to twisted, except in all honesty this was out of twisted's hands from the beginning.

Don't put the blame on the first thing or company that pops into your head. Look at the real picture.

Kenji u are totally right... cus clearly they didn't plan on any of this to go wrong... its the city that fucked it all up. It just sucks that it all happened so last minute but thats life right... it cant always go as planned.

Idunno · #**253** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

Originally posted by Kraig:

Simply put, I can't release the location yet so people please, STOP ASKING! Trust me when I say this though, you will not be disappointed once I do. I promise that as soon as I can, I will release the location information. DO NOT LET THIS DELAY YOU IN BUYING YOUR TICKETS. Feel free to phone any of the stores and ask, but Spooky tickets are moving, and moving QUICKLY. I want to make sure that all of you that want to go, can go for as cheap as possible.

SPOOKY isn't Halloween, atleast not this year.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to defend Twisted and declare that it's not Twisted's fault. It most deffinitely is Twisted's fault that some people's Halloween got ruined. From the information I've gathered, we all knew at IMF 2004 that Twisted was going to have competition this Halloween. (Maybe some before that?) That means 4 months to find a Venue which fits their needs. (not an easy thing to do) Eventually they had no choice but to go with their plan at Plaza of Nations.

But that hadn't all been worked out yet. Decision time.

A) Risk waiting for final confirmation on their venue and losing out on early ticket sales to DoomsNight or

B) Promote the event and hope everything works out.

They chose B) in good faith, of course they wanted everything to work out. The problem is when you gaurantee something AND sell tickets for an event, the people buying the tickets expect it to go through, especially with Twisted's track record. This is where I think alot of people got lost and angry. They bought the tickets, resting their faith in Twisted and it's promises, after all why not? Twisted has produced in the past.

The people at Twisted took a calculated business risk and lost. I believe they are sorry, sorrier than we might think because this has a lot more impact on them than just messing around with their Halloween like it did to some of you. This will definitely have some impact on attendance at future events. (Time invested, cancellations, refunds, future events, etc.)

But I say, too bad so sad. It's not entirely your fault, but you gambled, and you will have to deal with those concequences now.

As for me, I bought my DoomsNight ticket 2 weeks ago. ;p
(better lineup, better venue IMO)

Chewy · #**254** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Idunno

Originally posted by Kraig:

Simply put, I can't release the location yet so people please, STOP ASKING! Trust me when I say this though, you will not be disappointed once I do. I promise that as soon as I can, I will release the location information. DO NOT LET THIS DELAY YOU IN BUYING YOUR TICKETS. Feel free to phone any of the stores and ask, but Spooky tickets are moving, and moving QUICKLY. I want to make sure that all of you that want to go, can go for as cheap as possible.

SPOOKY isn't Halloween, atleast not this year.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to defend Twisted and declare that it's not Twisted's fault. It most deffinitely is Twisted's fault that some people's Halloween got ruined. From the information I've gathered, we all knew at IMF 2004 that Twisted was going to have competition this Halloween. (Maybe some before that?) That means 4 months to find a Venue which fits their needs. (not an easy thing to do) Eventually they had no choice but to go with their plan at Plaza of Nations.

But that hadn't all been worked out yet. Decision time.

A) Risk waiting for final confirmation on their venue and losing out on early ticket sales to DoomsNight or

B) Promote the event and hope everything works out.

They chose B) in good faith, of course they wanted everything to work out. The problem is when you gaurantee something AND sell tickets for an event, the people buying the tickets expect it to go through, especially with Twisted's track record. This is where I think alot of people got lost and angry. They bought the tickets, resting their faith in Twisted and it's promises, after all why not? Twisted has produced in the past.

The people at Twisted took a calculated business risk and lost. I believe they are sorry, sorrier than we might think because this has a lot more impact on them than just messing around with their Halloween like it did to some of you. This will definitely have some impact on attendance at future events. (Time invested, cancellations, refunds, future events, etc.)

But I say, too bad so sad. It's not entirely your fault, but you gambled, and you will have to deal with those concequences now.

As for me, I bought my DoomsNight ticket 2 weeks ago. ;p
(better lineup, better venue IMO)

Why do you have to sign up a new user name to say this... obviously you dont want people to know who you are..... What is the reason for this...?

if people knew who you were, well would ths affect you in any way or anything or anyone that you are affiliated with......

hmmmmm i wonder?????

Idunno · #**255** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Chewy

Why do you have to sign up a new user name to say this... obviously you dont want people to know who you are..... What is the reason for this...?

if people knew who you were, well would ths affect you in any way or anything or anyone that you are affiliated with......

hmmmmm i wonder?????

Well If you had done half of your homework you would realize I've been I've been a member since 2003. Barely a new account. I just don't post here.

Chewy · #**256** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

i geuss

Sniper · #**257** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

This reallly sucks for those who are underage and bought tickets......I would be pissed too......I'm underage and was originally planning on going to Spooky but changed to doom's cause of the bigger venue and the lineup.....though this is still partly Twisteds fault I don't feel that people should put all the blame on them.....true they coulda started planning and booking earlier for the venue but they didn't......big deal....everyone procastinates only this time it effects more people........but you're forgetting that this is also the gouvernments fault......they coulda given Twisted a little bit more notice and that woulda given them more time to find a more suitible venue......For thse who are of-age: be glad that Spooky is still happening.....at least you still have a party to go to and are getting a partial refund....and for those who are under-age: (not to sound like an assholeand I know most of you won't like this) but shit happens.....it's not the end of the world.....you're getting your money back.....and there are plenty of parties to go to instead (ie. Doom's Night if you can get tickets or Skullfuck).......But this is just my oppinion........didn't try and hide who I was either so if any one has any problems with what I have said feel free to pm me or post here........It doesn't make a differents to me.....I'm just posting this cause I don't think everyone should be hating on Twisted...they still through wicked parties and this one should be no different

P.S. This incident will also have absolutly no effect on weather or not I attend future Twisted Parties........It will still come down to the lineup and the music

cerah · #**258** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Playboybuny

Ya i knew this would happen...u speak ur mind and u get told off.

No... you say something fucking stupid and don't think before you talk you get told off.

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I know its not there fault...but fuck, there sure makin it look like it. I dont know what goes on. But what happened really makes me mad. So im letting evreyone know. Why cant it still happen till 4am, but no alcohol....Why did u have to make it a 19+ party?? DIDnt they think about the people like me that still want to go...

Didn't you read the initial post? It was up to the discretion of the Province to have a special event in a 19+ establishment be all ages and go all night. This is in no way Twisted's fault... it's the City that pulled the plug.

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I want to go but because im only 18, so close to 19, i cant go cause of alcohol! I think i have a right to be a little pissed off. Cause now u guys have it ur way. U can drink all night and not have to drink before the party and thats it. I go to raves cause i love the music. Its the only place i can hear it cause i dont know where to find it. But now i will end up going to Dooms night and listen to the music i dont really enjoy. thats if i can get a ticket...who knows about that. Dont hate on me cause im speakin my mind.

You think you're the only 18 going on 19 year old that ever lived? Sometimes you don't get to do things because of your age... deal with it. Oh boo-fucking-hoo you have to make more plans for Halloween. You could *gasp* go to a house party or even just chill n have a good time with some of your friends. Not being able to get fucked off E listening to trance isn't the end of the goddamn world.

Maybe when you've thrown a sucessful large scale party with international talent you'll understand things a bit better. But somehow (call me crazy here) I don't think you'll ever be able to.

Bit of advice:

CHILL OUT

and

GROW UP!

Sniper · #**259** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

^ well put..............though I do kinda agree with Chewy about ppl having the right to be pissed but really there is nothing you can do about it now....whats done is done

u_kno_it · #**260** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by alla

hahaha, thax asshole, u made me laugh!

i will have fun, cheers!

oh yea, my advice to you is dont belive everything you hear, ok honey?

hahaha this last comment you made had me laughing, cause I know the city council personally. I didn't hear I just know personally about how hard the city can be at times but guess what this ain't the citiy councils/Twisted/Swing Kids fault it was the damn higher authorities. Yah you just go have a good night and hope you have a bad one at the same time since you like to bitch about shit you don't know about so much blah blah blah!!!

lil_one · #**261** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

....so for a full refund we have to send in our tickets, but lets be honest the mail services suck, is there neway of meeting up with someone for this refund... and i was also wondering y a 19 plus, i mean us 18 and under cant help not being 19,we like the have fun aswell...i waited and waited for the tickets to come in n i bought 2 (one for me n one for my bf) because unfortionatly it was suposed to be our last party, we went n spent hella money on awesome costumes, all for nothing... this woulda been an awesome night, partying with friends,meeting more ppl, listening to music that we all love.. but now thats all taken away.... why... there better be a wicked make up party for this...I know its not there fault.. im not mad or nething just slightly dissapointed...

Berta · #**262** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

wow...harsh..:S :S

Canar · #**263** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Idunno

They chose B) in good faith, of course they wanted everything to work out. The problem is when you gaurantee something AND sell tickets for an event, the people buying the tickets expect it to go through, especially with Twisted's track record. This is where I think alot of people got lost and angry. They bought the tickets, resting their faith in Twisted and it's promises, after all why not? Twisted has produced in the past.

Ever actually thrown a party? There are a shitload of producers who run into unforseeable show-stoppers at the last-minute. Usually things work out. Sometimes it gets sketchy. Twisted did neither. Things didn't work out, so they offered complete refunds to those who are under 19. I imagine that some people are going to pretend they're under 19 and get refunds anyhow.

Kraig, does Twisted have an official position on the "I'm 19+ and want a refund" situation? Can we interpret the refund to extend to all ages generally unhappy with the course of events that took place?

Antenna_Boy · #**264** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

so now the bars are also gonna make some more profit ON TOP of the liquor sales..not bad eh? :mexitoke:

Playboybuny · #**265** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

Thats alright. Think what u want. Its just a piss off when ur plans r cancelled.. More like, alot of peoples plans r cancelled 3 days before halloween. I understand that parties can be cancelled. But its just a little weird how it all fell apart slowly. But whatever. Im over it. I just hope i can go to dooms night.
Harp please dont be mad at me. Just understand that it sux when ur under age. Im not blamign anyone, well i didnt mean to if i did. Im not the only one whos mad about what happend.
And to everyone else whos freakin on me.. I think we all need to calm down.

Anjew · #**266** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

^^ i thoguht you said you didn't care

BrownThug · #**267** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Mr.Dave

Also 19+.

are u comin to spooky on saturday??

tones6 · #**268** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Anjew

^^ i thoguht you said you didn't care

wanna play hold'em??? muahhaa

ty:rone · #**269** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Chewy

Why do you have to sign up a new user name to say this... obviously you dont want people to know who you are..... What is the reason for this...?

if people knew who you were, well would ths affect you in any way or anything or anyone that you are affiliated with......

hmmmmm i wonder?????

brother, nobody needs to troll around just to voice their opinions

spooky messed up this year
they messed up last year
and they messed up 2 years ago
and 3 years ago, if i knew any better, i woulda went to wicked instead.
i've been to my share of twisted events.. hel i think i've been to more twisted events than any other production. some good (breathe), some bad(spook[ie]s). and it 's not just the spooky parties where something wicked this way comes.

stop hating yo! maybe the power will go out at doom's night. anne savage will be laughing if that happens (only some will understand this).

tones6 · #**270** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by 4:20

brother, nobody needs to troll around just to voice their opinions

spooky messed up this year
they messed up last year
and they messed up 2 years ago
and 3 years ago, if i knew any better, i woulda went to wicked instead.
i've been to my share of twisted events.. hel i think i've been to more twisted events than any other production. some good (breathe), some bad(spook[ie]s). and it 's not just the spooky parties where something wicked this way comes.

stop hating yo! maybe the power will go out at doom's night. anne savage will be laughing if that happens (only some will understand this).

fuck you bitch, dont say that!! if it does, i'll grab anne savage and we'll kick your ass!!!

ty:rone · #**271** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

^^^ hahahaha.. dood .. if that happens, u know something is UP.

anyway, i totally think this drinking till dawn idea fused with rave djs in a club for spooky is still hype.
I Thought all the kids were gonna be at doom's night??? Whoever the fuck said that i wonder????

Kraig · #**272** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Playboybuny

This is bullshit for me and my friends. Ya great u all get to drink now. But what the fuck am i supose to do???? Ur all happy cause theres no under age kids. I told so many people that spooky was not cancellled....and now it is! I look like a liar now. I cant afford to go to Dooms night. I dont mean to bitch, but fuck this is so not fair for people my age. Im 18...almost 19. But thats not good enough. ya have fun drinking and partying till 4.So lets see whos gonna tell me to shut up??? . Its not fair for people my age. Now i will think twice to go to a twisted party.

^^ The party wasn't cancelled when you and I had spoke. If you had read my original post, this all came to light at literally 8:30AM on Monday morning.

Your frustration is understandable as if I were your age, I would be pissed too. Obviously this isn't something we wanted!

As for getting your money back, you do not have to worry about that, you will be sorted appropriately and as quickly as possible.

Kraig · #**273** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

here is what i think about refunds...the dj's for spooky will get paid off first before twisted decides to refund the monies owed on refunded tickets. So it may be months before you see your money..try next year?:070:

Antenna_Boy - please do not say dumb ass things like this as it is far from the truth.

Kraig · #**274** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

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Originally Posted by Idunno

Originally posted by Kraig:

Simply put, I can't release the location yet so people please, STOP ASKING! Trust me when I say this though, you will not be disappointed once I do. I promise that as soon as I can, I will release the location information. DO NOT LET THIS DELAY YOU IN BUYING YOUR TICKETS. Feel free to phone any of the stores and ask, but Spooky tickets are moving, and moving QUICKLY. I want to make sure that all of you that want to go, can go for as cheap as possible.

SPOOKY isn't Halloween, atleast not this year.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to defend Twisted and declare that it's not Twisted's fault. It most deffinitely is Twisted's fault that some people's Halloween got ruined. From the information I've gathered, we all knew at IMF 2004 that Twisted was going to have competition this Halloween. (Maybe some before that?) That means 4 months to find a Venue which fits their needs. (not an easy thing to do) Eventually they had no choice but to go with their plan at Plaza of Nations.

But that hadn't all been worked out yet. Decision time.

A) Risk waiting for final confirmation on their venue and losing out on early ticket sales to DoomsNight or

B) Promote the event and hope everything works out.

They chose B) in good faith, of course they wanted everything to work out. The problem is when you gaurantee something AND sell tickets for an event, the people buying the tickets expect it to go through, especially with Twisted's track record. This is where I think alot of people got lost and angry. They bought the tickets, resting their faith in Twisted and it's promises, after all why not? Twisted has produced in the past.

The people at Twisted took a calculated business risk and lost. I believe they are sorry, sorrier than we might think because this has a lot more impact on them than just messing around with their Halloween like it did to some of you. This will definitely have some impact on attendance at future events. (Time invested, cancellations, refunds, future events, etc.)

But I say, too bad so sad. It's not entirely your fault, but you gambled, and you will have to deal with those concequences now.

As for me, I bought my DoomsNight ticket 2 weeks ago. ;p
(better lineup, better venue IMO)

Idunno -- do you have any idea how long it takes to legalize a venue... how about this... go do it first, then come talk to me.

We had our permits in our hands. We had full security, fire and police plans completed and approved. Unfortunately, when the Provincial Liquor Board reviewed this approved permits, they were revoked.

Although I understand and appreicate peoples frustration, please ensure YOU understand the situation to its fullest. If you want further details, PM me.

Peace.

#**275** (**permalink**) Oct 28, 04

been there, and seen that, and expereienced that!

wicked.. pne, october 2000!

and guess WHAT... anne savage's set is at the same time as back in 2000! ( 2 [3] am, when the time changes)

haha, power better now go off this time! they better have security watch out for those drunk drivers at EACH poll!!!! (lol, just kiddin)

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Originally Posted by 4:20

brother, nobody needs to troll around just to voice their opinions

spooky messed up this year
they messed up last year
and they messed up 2 years ago
and 3 years ago, if i knew any better, i woulda went to wicked instead.
i've been to my share of twisted events.. hel i think i've been to more twisted events than any other production. some good (breathe), some bad(spook[ie]s). and it 's not just the spooky parties where something wicked this way comes.

stop hating yo! maybe the power will go out at doom's night. anne savage will be laughing if that happens (only some will understand this).