Is It weird for Christians to be Ravers?

[Anjew]

Hey do you guys find it weird if a Christian is a Raver?
My friends were sayign that it was completely wrong and goes against the religion entirely?

[oliver]

yes.

the openmindedness and acceptance of all cultures, religions, and lifestyles that is (should be) part of rave is pretty different from the closeminded and constrained ideals that make up the base of christianity.

[Bitchin]

I think if you do drugs and your a christian.. thats bad but to stay up all night and just dance and socialise it alright..

[oliver]

yah, staying up all night and socializing in itself isnt going against anything.

BUT what raves stand for and the ideals that are at least supposed to be part of the scene are not very christian.

[Bitchin]

^^true

this is gonna sound stupid..

but is it also against christianity to 'rave' about something!?

HAHAHA

[diva]

Originally posted by Junglet:
yah, staying up all night and socializing in itself isnt going against anything.

BUT what raves stand for and the ideals that are at least supposed to be part of the scene are not very christian.

PLUR

[diva]

please explain how "raving" is against Christianity, thanks.

[Guice_39]

Life is about making choices and all so deciding to rave is another choice whether a cristian or not. It might be against moral teachings of christianity to do drugs because you are abusing your body but besides that its not weird at all.

But I like what Junglet said about rave being openmindedness and accepting of all cultures, religions and lifestyles......that is very true and a good thing, even when your on drugs.

[Glendita*]

Um ... i think it's what you do at the raves that will determine if it goes agaisnt your beliefs.But i think that applies to everyday life situations.

When i first started to party i was still really into my religion , and i started to see that it was really wrong of me to call myself a Christain and be doing what i was doing because it went agaisnt it. And i know alonger call myself it ... which is kinda sad i think , well for myself at least.

If u find that what u do at parties and what happens at parties is apart of "christian life" ... then i think u should stick by it .But then again how much to u value ur religion if your putting yourself in a situation like a "rave" where 80% of the ppl there are fucking high out of their minds, because i'm almost positive your not doing missionary work there.

Blah blah religion is just a touchy subject ... and my ramblings don't even make sense , but yeah good luck in whatever your conclusion is .

[oliver]

Originally posted by diva:


PLUR

peace love unity respect?

christianity is about dominating other religions and alternative mindsets. christianity is about exclusion. who can get into heaven, and who can not. who is part of "god's" kingdom, and who is not. who is a sinner, who is a blasphemer. christianity is only about inclusion when you are being assimilated into christianity.

christianity does not promote the exploration of ones own religious and spiritual views or lifestyle.

the bottom line is: Christianity is about CONFORMITY. jesus is called a shepard for a reason. the ideals of rave are the exact opposite.

im not saying you cant be a christian and go to raves. but the fundamental ideals of both cultures are completely at odds with one another.

(drugs dont need to have anything to do with this either)

[Gold Streaks]

christianity is not the only religion that pretty much frowns apon the rave scene. any religion you find out there is unreasonable and hypocritical.

i consider myself a christian. i'm just not practicing right now.

[oliver]

^i didnt realize one could turn ones religion on and off at will.

[Rhianna]

Hey NSC girls, this brings to mind a cretin "bible lover" that used to party with us. But I also seem to remember her holy ass doing lost of raver drugs. Then again maybe she was just doing it to reach a new spiritual level.

If you religious well that's just great, but it just annoys me when people say they truly believe in their religion and their god yet they never actually fallow any of it. That's such a copout to decide what rules work for you or not. What's the point then?

Point being, going to an all night rave party to dance, socialize and listen to music isn't against anything but if your going to go and break all your religious morals then that just seems kind of odd.

[crookedking]

Originally posted by Junglet:
^i didnt realize one could turn ones religion on and off at will.

you sure can.

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by Junglet:
yes.

the openmindedness and acceptance of all cultures, religions, and lifestyles that is (should be) part of rave is pretty different from the closeminded and constrained ideals that make up the base of christianity.

hahah i hope your being sarcastic oliver...

personally i think its a pretty fucken stupid question...christians would only be against abusing your body with drugs, and doing drugs isn't essential to being a raver...there are some christian sects that don't like their parishiners doing anything other then praying and reading the bible, but there is sects like these in all religions..

for me its a non-issuse..as hedenosim is where i find my spirituality...which is why im almost always fucked outta my dome at parties.."im trying to see god maaaaaannn."

[c-ho]

Hoy Andrew, I go to church most sundays, but HOW in the world is it against my religion?

Theres nothing wrong with spending all night doing something I enjoy, or like a hobby. Dancing helps me calm down, makes me feel good. SO whats so wrong with that?

:soak:

So is it bad for me if I smoke?

[c-ho]

............. Religiously, I mean.

[*STARFISH*]

i dont think so..
im not religious..
..like i believe in God,
but ive only been to church like twice in my life..
so i dont know if i could consider myself Christian or not..
but i dont think there is anything wrong with partying...

i fully agree with sean.

[All!e]

I'm totaly with you on it Glenda - I know what cha mean.

Originally posted by ~* tinker *bell*~:
Um ... i think it's what you do at the raves that will determine if it goes agaisnt your beliefs.But i think that applies to everyday life situations.

When i first started to party i was still really into my religion , and i started to see that it was really wrong of me to call myself a Christain and be doing what i was doing because it went agaisnt it. And i know alonger call myself it ... which is kinda sad i think , well for myself at least.

If u find that what u do at parties and what happens at parties is apart of "christian life" ... then i think u should stick by it .But then again how much to u value ur religion if your putting yourself in a situation like a "rave" where 80% of the ppl there are fucking high out of their minds, because i'm almost positive your not doing missionary work there.

Blah blah religion is just a touchy subject ... and my ramblings don't even make sense , but yeah good luck in whatever your conclusion is .

[Guice_39]

Originally posted by Junglet:
im not saying you cant be a christian and go to raves. but the fundamental ideals of both cultures are completely at odds with one another.

So what is it at raves that christianity would be totally against???? Besides the drugs.

And don't say the closeminded and constrained ideals that make up the base of christianity becaue that sounds more like the Old Testament to me. When Jesus came, the starting of the New Testament, things were changed a bit. Remember, The Golden Rule and The New Commandment, Love one another as I have loved you, if one hits you turn the other cheek and if one steals a shirt then offer him your coat. And when bringing these new rules for us as humans to follow, Jesus knew that not everyone would follow them or even christianity. But he was teaching us to live together in a PLUR kinda way even if others have different beliefs, lifestyles or religions.

[~lazee_grrl~]

being a Christian is not only about following the "so called" rules...there is so much more to it then that..

i used to be a pretty good Christian before..but i must admit partying set me back..only because i allowed it to..just because u do things that go against ur religion..doesn't mean it's not your religion anymore...Christians sin everyday...

worrying is a sin too..damn..i worry everyday..must mean i'm not a Christian anymore..

[Guice_39]

Originally posted by ~lazee_grrl~:
being a Christian is not only about following the "so called" rules...there is so much more to it then that..

Well then I guess their not really rules........but its obvious that if we lived loving one another, in unity, helping each other out rather than worrying about how much more we can get individually, then the world wouldn't be so fucked up. And we would be on the verge of war either.

[Sykonee]

Since most religions are mainly based around a set of ideals, then depending on what one takes from Christianity, they can easily be a raver as, in principal, they do share similar beliefs. However, Christianity has been segmentated into so many different factions over the years that it is unfair to lump all Christians into a single cliche.

Here's an interesting aside:
Since many ravers consider raving to be a spiritual, almost religious, experience, if this culture can withstand its adolecence and perhaps become a dominate religion in the future, could it be possible that future sects may pervert its original ideals to suit their own needs? (really, we see some of this already going on. Just imagine promoters instead of priests)

[stabmyhead]

Oh yeah... those hedonistic drug popping Christian ravers are going straight to hell!

[Anjew]

Originally posted by Sean!:


hahah i hope your being sarcastic oliver...

personally i think its a pretty fucken stupid question...

I dind't think it was that stupid of a question....