how come we don't hear much about female geniuses?

[azazel]

is this thread gonna turn into another wumfest like the last one?

[azazel]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

Even you can make your own wum thread by following these easy to use steps


1) Borderline offensive question

2) Egg on the people who take the bait

3) Cutesy emoticons

4) You did it!

you forgot profit and question marks

[azazel]

assuming that culture, industry, or whatever plays a factor in genius, can anyone name any 'original' unschooled geniuses who came onto their own without partaking in a system? male or female.

I'm just trying to develop some ideas here I have of my own about the nature of genius.

[azazel]

Srinivasa Ramanujan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by azazel

assuming that culture, industry, or whatever plays a factor in genius, can anyone name any 'original' unschooled geniuses who came onto their own without partaking in a system? male or female.

I'm just trying to develop some ideas here I have of my own about the nature of genius.

Well I think you should write in your paper that you yourself are a prime example of an unschooled genius because you know, you just know that monet and rembrandt are geniuses, which is clearly evidence of your own geniusness to recognize geniuses.

[ebbomega]

Ayn Rand is an excellent example of a female artistic genius.

If you want one from an era wherein females were an oppressed people and people had to look to homosexuals for their artistic genius, unfortunately you'll be a bit hard-pressed.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

Dont you think that there was a huge paradigm shift at the end of the age of the atomic family?I do not beleive that the same values exist today in modern western society as they did lets say 30-40 years ago.I dont think it has much to do with persuading as it does conditioning.

From experience in my field, I am treated differently by men and sometimes men won't even want to deal with me because I have a vagina and am somehow less capable and less intelligent then someone with a penis. That really fucking pisses me off.

what field is that, as person with marginal importance in the service field?

[azazel]

Originally Posted by yoko*

Well I think you should write in your paper that you yourself are a prime example of an unschooled genius because you know, you just know that monet and rembrandt are geniuses, which is clearly evidence of your own geniusness to recognize geniuses.

for the tenth time this isn't a paper. sometimes i like to think about things that aren't for school credits.

[dj_soo]

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Ayn Rand is an excellent example of a female artistic genius.

If you want one from an era wherein females were an oppressed people and people had to look to homosexuals for their artistic genius, unfortunately you'll be a bit hard-pressed.

ayn rand was a crazy bitch, and this is coming from a capitalist.

if she was a dude id call him a crazy fuck, shompton aint no sexist, nor racist but my love of speaking ghetto on internet forums overrides all other principles.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Ayn Rand is an excellent example of a female artistic genius.

If you want one from an era wherein females were an oppressed people and people had to look to homosexuals for their artistic genius, unfortunately you'll be a bit hard-pressed.

jews were quite oppressed, how did they manage it?

[robyn]

female creative genius has brought us such smash hits as drip coffee, kevlar and tribbing, thereby revolutionizing lives the world over.

[robyn]

but seriously genius isn't this innate thing inside that suddenly comes exploding out in a burst of sistine chapels and syphilis so think twice before dropping out to paint shit.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Ayn Rand is an excellent example of a female artistic genius.

If you want one from an era wherein females were an oppressed people and people had to look to homosexuals for their artistic genius, unfortunately you'll be a bit hard-pressed.

Ayn Rand had interesting ideas and philosophies, but is easily one of the worst writers I have ever read.

"This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly, it should be thrown away with great force."
-Dorthy Parker during her review of Atlas Shrugged.


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Wum, if this is about recognizing female geniuses, by only using historical figures during Western European history, you've just limited your selection quite a bit.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Ayn Rand had interesting ideas and philosophies, but is easily one of the worst writers I have ever read.

"This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly, it should be thrown away with great force."
-Dorthy Parker during her review of Atlas Shrugged.


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Wum, if this is about recognizing female geniuses, by only using historical figures during Western European history, you've just limited your selection quite a bit.

My last guy was from India.

[Drazkers]

This is going to be the Female vs Male dj thread part 2

[NinjaBoy]

By the way...

A few famous female writers/poets/philosophers of modern western history:

Emily Dickenson - Poet

Jane Austin - Sense and Sensibility, Pride and Prejudice etc...

Dorthy Parker - Member of the new york round table, writer, poet

Ayn Rand (not a fan of her writing style but still very famous)

Mary Shelley - Frankenstein

Hypatia of Alexandria - Math genius during greek times who taught science and wrote volumes on math and science.

Christine de Pizan - Wrote "city of ladies", early feminist

Dorothea Lange - Photographer, documented depression and
Japanese relocation in America (you'd recognize her photos if you saw them)

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by azazel

for the tenth time this isn't a paper. sometimes i like to think about things that aren't for school credits.

oh bullshit, you little shit starter!
You just like watching people get excited over threads you create.

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by yoko*

oh bullshit, you little shit starter!
You just like watching people get excited over threads you create.

Which only happens once out of every twenty

[-evil-duerr-]

this thread is so retarded. one only has to look out there back door for prime examples of female genius.

Emily Carr - Painter
Margaret Atwood - Writer
Joni Mitchell - Musician

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by azazel

is this thread gonna turn into another wumfest like the last one?

it would only mean that you'd come back with a different ip and eve weirder name, eh ninjasage1 apprentice?

[azazel]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

this thread is so retarded. one only has to look out there back door for prime examples of female genius.

Emily Carr - Painter
Margaret Atwood - Writer
Joni Mitchell - Musician

didn't say they didn't exist, but there's a lot less of them :|

[-evil-duerr-]

I have a hunch it's related to the fact that most of these male geniuses are notorious for being absent to their family and basically every other responsibility that women are less likely to shirk for dreams.

[jenai]

because it's not proper for a woman to boast about her intellectual achievements. she lets a man take the credit in order to avoid his jealousy.

indeed, most important inventions were actually the work of women, including fire, sexu equality and the earliest repositories of cultural more known as "old wives' tales", which were orally transmitted until men figured out how to turn runes into writing.

women also help developed writing, which was originally used to record moon phases so they could monitor their fertile periods.

of course, most of this is conjecture as women realized that writing about their inventions would lead to a big fight over who invented what with the men.

what did women trade all their inventions for with the men? children, who they taught through oral story telling.

so the reason why female geniuses are unheard of is they learn very quickly to let men take the credit.

also female geniuses tend pick lousy mates sometimes. a good example of this is einstein's first wife, Mileva Marić.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Ayn Rand had interesting ideas and philosophies, but is easily one of the worst writers I have ever read.

I hear a lot of people say this about Ayn Rand and I'm usually not sure if

1. they've managed to read an entire novel of hers that wasn't atlas shrugged

2. they've managed to read any ayn rand and just say these statements because they seem to go along with what everyone else thinks of her

Back to the original topic, the sad part is that females were excluded from being artistic, intellectual, etc. so much for the last eon or so that we tend to take a few women that did do something and blow up mediocre accomplishments so that they can get a place in history books or literary texts. Yes, Emily Dickenson was a great poet, but I wouldn't call her a genius. Edna St. Vincent Millay was perhaps one of the most innovative female poets in the last 100 years but you hardly hear a word about her because she was bisexual, never had children and lead a very avant garde lifestyle that had her shunned from even being included in the way she ought to be in discussions of female artistic genius. Also, if you want to talk about female artistic genius in the last 100 years, look at Martha Graham!

Why are we limiting ourselves in a discussion about genius to just people who have made creative strides in the artistic community? What about science?