Does Jesus hate yoga?

[Bevvy Swift]

wow this thread got gay.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

True, but if a person happens to have faith in their community and that community happens to be a religion, is it really such a Bad Thing in and of itself?

to an extent. i think were getting to a point where we have to accurately define our terms. if we're using broad terms, then not necessarily. if we're using colloquial terms, then definitely. one of my biggest problems with religions in their current state is their homogeneity, which is in fact anti-life.

Originally Posted by ebbomega

The only problems come when someone tries to assert control over such a community - something Jesus himself spoke out against.

imo, this is what "religion" is. if jesus was around today (if he was ever around) he would most likely not be going to any church.

[SEAN!]

spirits are for fuckin fags, when i die i rot in the ground

[Veni*C]

arguing religion....faith...and spirituality on a rave msg board..... like watching a dog chace its tail.....not going anyhwere!

[mojo]

i wouldn't interpret this as an argument, but more as a discussion. It is these types of discussions that i find the most interesting about fnk, though i can only speak for myself when i urge you all to continue.

[Veni*C]

i feel its more of an argument when people are trying to prove a point.... its like it wont stop until someone feels satisfied that their point has been taken...and they are "right" .... sounds like why there is so many problems from religion in the first place.. everyone trying to push that their religion is "the right one" when really.. its all comes down to the same thing...... were all on this planet together... no matter what "god" or "faith" you follow... and eventually .. we will all die one day too...


woo hoo.. i got my first bad karma EVER... :)

[NinjaBoy]

If we're going to go on about things god hates according to the Christian faith, I hope you don't have any cotton/polyester blend clothing, because that's a sin FYI. So saying Yoga's bad, but not following all the rules yourself is kind of a waste of time.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by Veni*C

i feel its more of an argument when people are trying to prove a point.... its like it wont stop until someone feels satisfied that their point has been taken...and they are "right" .... sounds like why there is so many problems from religion in the first place.. everyone trying to push that their religion is "the right one" when really.. its all comes down to the same thing...... were all on this planet together... no matter what "god" or "faith" you follow... and eventually .. we will all die one day too...


woo hoo.. i got my first bad karma EVER... :)

you rock veni. (you only get bad karma for winning the argument)

[kir mokum]

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by Bevvy Swift

you rock veni. (you only get bad karma for winning the argument)

no, she got bad karma for saying something really stupid.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by Veni*C

we will all die one day too...

not me, gonna get bit by a vampire.

[kir mokum]

"i'm not dead, i'm un-dead. big difference."

[Veni*C]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

no, she got bad karma for saying something really stupid.

on the basis of what? my personal observation? and my choice to voice it as everyone else in this thread is doing...

[Krusha]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

like a good whiskey doug standhope only gets more tastless with age ... you should see his last special in new york

[ebbomega]

My biggest problem with atheism is that lately it's been as vehement that THEY'RE the ones who have it right as any other religion, and that's usually the first sign that you have it wrong.

[tiedye]

Good whiskey never gets tasteless.

[SEAN!]

^werd.

I think the real question to ask is, does yoga hate jesus?

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

My biggest problem with atheism is that lately it's been as vehement that THEY'RE the ones who have it right as any other religion, and that's usually the first sign that you have it wrong.

i don't find it very prudent to lump atheists together or to imply that it's a philosophical movement since the only binding tenet is non-belief/scepticism, but i agree. any smart atheist will tell you that they don't know. the non-believers that i like are vehement about everything else. basically the destructive and divisive culture that contemporary religions (especially abrahamic) create. dawkins, hitchenson, and dennet, from what i've seen, have no problem with someone believing in god(s) but they feel the right to challenge the beliefs and especially the culture surrounding it much as you would any idea.

in my experience theist/atheist discussions rarely revolve around if there's a god or not but whether the particular mythology surrounding the theist's belief's are valid/accurate/true/whatever. the "is there a god" discussion is very difficult because there's no proof either way and logic/philosophy will only go so far so it's generally a stand off. however, the mythologies are so DnD ridiculous that it's hard to comprehend any thinking person to buy into it. even if there is a god and even if jesus was his son/himself EVERYTHING else is so ludicrous and illogical it just falls apart with any amount of scrutiny. personally, i think that's why the "personal jesus" and the ideological cherry picking is so abundant in religion. i think people feel a certain amount of obligation, from their cultural upbringing, that they need to believe in religion x but they strip away as little of the nonsense as they can muster and still feel it makes any amount of sense.

i don't know if there's a god and i think it's a moot point either way. what i do know is that contemporary religion and it's culture is fucked up and we would be better off with it relegated to the fringes of society.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by Veni*C

on the basis of what? my personal observation?

if that was your observation, then yes. it also showed a lot of ignorance in several areas.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

If you really want to be picky about it, every western religion is based in Judaism (including islam).



So what is Christianity if none of these Christians are actually practicing it? My point is that if you're going to use a term like "Christian" you're referring to the catch-all of New Testament-based religions. By your standards, it's frelling impossible to be a "proper" christian. You can go around saying "That person's not really a Christian" but you'd be making the same level of discrimination that comes from every fundamentalist that says "That person doesn't worship the same as me and is therefore wrong."

Saying someone isn't a REAL christian because they don't follow a particular dogma or interpretation of the Bible is pretty ignorant, IMO.



Did I refer to it as fiction? No, I said it was a story about people. Not all stories are fiction.



Jesus had a lot to say about temples and churches, and what was supposed to happen in them. Why do you think the priests were so pissed off with him? He was debunking their entire dogmatic codifying of the Torah.

You're getting really caught up in semantics here. Yes, Pagans and Christians have a lot in common. That doesn't mean they are the same thing. But the First Commandment is the main thing that differentiates them. Paganism is polytheism, whereas Christianity (and all other Judea-based religions) are monotheistic.

To say that they are the same religion is pretty absurd.

Im sorry, I did not mean that they were the exact same...but they had the exact same practices within them. The exact same rituals(more so in some sects then in others)and some times same symbolisim. The fact that 2 major "christian" holidays are in direct reference to 2 other gods/goddess' is more then coincidence and the fact that people still relate those 2 holidays to christianity is insulting.

It has nothing to do with following a certain dogma or interpretation...i didnt say sweet f-all about any of the other sects and what gospels they follow and beleive in.I didnt even say jack about my sect.

It has to do with truth and seeking it and living it and breathing it. To seek truth you must be able to identify the lies within your own faith and stand apart from those lies and the people that perpetuate them.

I think as usual you have misunderstood what Ive said,and taken it out of context to serve your own purpose.

[Veni*C]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

if that was your observation, then yes. it also showed a lot of ignorance in several areas.

im a highly aware person and know my observation did not come from ignorance... if you think my observation held as much ignorance as some people in this thread are spewing then you need to pull the stick out of your ass buddy.


wow. really..... thanks for the laugh

[kir mokum]

you're pretty uppity over neg karma to be telling me to pull a stick out of my ass.

[Veni*C]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

you're pretty uppity over neg karma to be telling me to pull a stick out of my ass.

nope. not really.....but i think its just really funny how i feel out of everyone you are trying to push your opinion the most and prove something.. which is contradicting half of the things you are saying...
you are deffinatly triggering me though.. not because your challanging my beliefs... but because i think YOU are saying things out of ignorance.

and going back to my original point cause im done.... its like watching a dog chase its tail... not really going anywhere.

[kir mokum]

care to elaborate?

[Krusha]

Originally Posted by tiedye

Good whiskey never gets tasteless.

actually the more you age whiskey the less potent, it's never tasteless, unaged whiskeys are blended to create a balance between aged flavour and potency ... but i guess you already knew that