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I apologize for the snarky rave comment. I was out of line. Quote:
My uncle's a pediatrician at Surrey Memorial Hospital. He's managed to raise a shitload of money and donations for a women and children's health clinic he's building in Ghana. I plan on working there 4 months out of the year when it's finished in two years---if he lets me, that is. You can make money enough money to be comfortable, and make a difference in the world. You don't have to trade one for the other. I wouldn't be going into the health profession if I wanted to be rich. |
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diva, hate to call you on it again, but i do have adult responsibilties. no i dont have a baby, but i do have to support the household i live in.
again, (this isnt snide) but what are your feelings on the people who are being affected medically? the ones with the post poned treatment\suregeries? |
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if you want a job that pays more, you improve your skills and aggressively look for one..thats what people who are not a part of the public sector do..they dont whine complaian and hold other people hostage. its overpayed public sector union members who beleive that for some reason they have job security..guess what no one does, if the ndp gets elected and the construction industry gtanks(and it would) im gone, and so are the 30 or so other people who work for the same company. its the same for all other sectors of the economy union and non-union so why should it be any different for the public sector. people need to quit bitchin about there situatiion and fuckin do somehting about it. P.S diva, about adult responsibilities, your a full time ubc student, do you also have a job that you go to all year round or do your parents in oregon pay for everything?...you have yet to enter the real world until you graduate and become an RN, even if you are paying your own rent. Last edited by SEAN!; May 03, 04 at 10:04 AM. |
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i manage a construction company, with gross revenues of around 8 million dollars a year(and its not owned by any one related to me either, so blah)....i think im kind of involved with the real world already. |
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FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, I'M NOT PRO UNION. I firmly believe that capitalism makes the world go round. I think it's fucking horrible that surgeries have been cancelled and people are suffering. I'm sorry that your family has been affected by this. I can honestly say, however, that If anyone in my family was affected, i'd still hold the same beliefs. As it is, i'll probably be affected by this because i wont be able to start my clinical rotation if this keeps up, which is ass because i'm paying $2,000 to be in school this summer. Sticking to what they believe in doesn't make the HEU heartless or insensitive. They're putting their livelihoods first. As they should. I would fight to maintain my family's standard of living and so would you. If you did a bit of research, you'd find out why there were surgery waits in the first place. The liberals are shutting down facilities right and left. That's why people had to wait in the first place. Why isn't anyone questioning that? Staffing levels in hospitalsl are really scary right now. They only reason they're not lower is because hospitals can't legally open up more beds without a certain ratio of nurse to patient. There are a billion and one reasons for why the health care system is fucked right now. To lay total and complete blame on the people at the bottom of that messy pile just doesn't make sense. I avoided saying anything about the general public being affected by the strike because using that as a argument for why the members of the HEU should have to live with the pay cut and paying back the retroactive sum to April 1st isn't right. It's full of fallacies. 1. Ad Baculum fallacy. You commit the fallacy of appeal to emotions when someone's appeal to you to accept their claim is accepted merely because the appeal arouses your feelings of anger, fear, grief, love, outrage, pity, pride, sexuality, sympathy, and so forth. 2. Avoiding the issue. A reasoner who is supposed to address an issue but instead goes off on a tangent has committed the fallacy of avoiding the issue. Also called missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, and not sticking to the issue. The issue, btw is whether or not the Liberals are in the right with bill 37. I'm not saying that the entire bill should be scrapped, certain parts of it need to be ammended, though. The MLAs were woken up at midnight to vote on it. Half of them didn't know what all the provisions in were. I listened to one MLA tell a radio host that he didn't know that the retroactive clause was in there. I don't think a lot of them did. It was a shotgun vote. 3. Bandwagon. If you suggest that someone's claim is correct simply because it's what most everyone is coming to believe, then you're committing the bandwagon fallacy. Get up the wagon and don't think too much about the reasons. 4. Biased Statistics This fallacy is committed whenever we use biased statistics as if they are not biased. When the error is with the size of the sample, it is called small sample or biased sample. When the error is with the representativeness of the sample, it is called unrepresentative sample. When some of the statistical evidence is hidden or overlooked, it is also called suppressed evidence. I'm sure that both sides of this argument are presenting the media with skewed statistics. 5. False Dilemma A reasoner who unfairly presents too few choices and then implies that a choice must be made among this short menu of choices commits the false dilemma fallacy, as does the person who accepts this faulty reasoning. There isn't only one choice here. |
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I can't work in my program. The faculty frowns upon it. I'm at school from 9-5 every day--with an hour for lunch. Sometimes I have to be in the hospital for 12 hour shifts. If my average drops to below a C+, i'm kicked out of the program. It's really fucking hard to find a part-time job that would allow me to maintain the A- average I need for grad school. My parents do not pay for everything. They help me out, just like your parents do, because they believe in the value of a good education. |
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i "think" the world is changing at a pace that job security doesn't really work that confidently anymore, but people still think job security means never get fired. Quote:
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its frowned apon to be at work in most programs, i know it is in mine, and i tried for a year of just doing coaching jobs while i go to school = not enough money. alot of program students are at school 9-5 and alot of them still have jobs. also hospital waits have been happening for way longer then since the liberals stepped into power. yes i agree there is something wrong with the system and something needs to be done, but for the millionth time, PEOPLES WELFARE SHOULD NOT BE HARMED. its beyond reasoning. they are putting a value on peoples lives whom they dont even know. |
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the union usually compensates you for it. But unions haven't been needed for decades.
When it comes to industries that society depend on to keep a fluid runing city/province/country, it should be illegal to go on strike, or even have a union in place. |
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I love working with kids too... and yeah if I didnt need the money and had all the time in the world id probly be out there working with kids for free too... But we dont live in a UTOPIA. I spent over $5000 this year to up grade my skills in college. Worked my ass off studying and holding a crummy part time job to servive this year... Dam straight ill deserve a $20 an hour wage + cupe benifets. |
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i too have spent over $5000 in courses to become a swim coach. i have to be a fully certified lifegaurd and upgrade my cprc every year, and keep all my other courses updated as well as obtain my nccp level one. and any other course the slub sees fit for me to take.
i still wouldnt ask for more money. im not working with them for myself, im there for the kids. maybe its just my beliefes, but when it comes to other people, i dont put price tags on them. yes my time is worth alot, but id much rather donate my time then take activities ect. away from kids\people. p.s. rhiannon i think on may 14 you should go to subeez, i hear theres an opening for a show of crazy good paintings up there, including one by some girl named meghan davies. |
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