Pope's coffin had SKULL & BONES on it!!1one

[acidic_liquid]

Well, I know I can't stop people from saying what they wanna say. I just think everyone deserves some respect when they just died. Criticism can start later.

[wum]

Originally Posted by -ff-

The whole concept of NWO is pretty rediculous anyway - we already live under a 'world order' goverened by the principles of transnational capital. No serious political or international relations theorist believes that we are anywhere near, or moving towards some kind of a world state. If anything the trend is towards increased weakening of state powers by MNCs, and a growing patchwork of unconnected regulatory regimes, each of which is dedicated to a particular area (international law, regional security regimes, an environmental regime, ect) none of these are under the control of one actor, and none of them have much authority even in their own area, nevermind over other areas.

You're making my case for me :). States are weakening, and they are being overtaken by regulatory committees, or federations (i.e. European Union). As states are becoming less indepedent, and more "globalized" they are coming together in a One World kind of way.

Well... would it be so hard to consolidate things? We already have a World Court, the Law of the Sea treaty (that's basically the Socalism of seabed resources), World Bank, and in the near future perhaps just a few currencies by region (Euro, Amero, Yen?).

If you don't think they don't have much authority, why is the American Public Education controlled by UNESCO, a UN organization? It'd certainly call that control. It's all happening incrementally.

It's not so hard to imagine.

[CodaDrummer]

Well, this just turns me right on.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

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[CodaDrummer]

Wum, you can feck off.

[automatic]

so the way is see it there are two possibilities...

the pope's coffin had a skull and crossbones on it perpetuatuting a centuries long tradition of giving a little frisson of thrill to the people in power and affirming that the vatican is onside for the coming global takeover.

or....

because it's a COFFIN!

yarr!!!

[automatic]

Originally Posted by wum

You're making my case for me :). States are weakening, and they are being overtaken by regulatory committees, or federations (i.e. European Union). As states are becoming less indepedent, and more "globalized" they are coming together in a One World kind of way.

Well... would it be so hard to consolidate things? We already have a World Court, the Law of the Sea treaty (that's basically the Socalism of seabed resources), World Bank, and in the near future perhaps just a few currencies by region (Euro, Amero, Yen?).

If you don't think they don't have much authority, why is the American Public Education controlled by UNESCO, a UN organization? It'd certainly call that control. It's all happening incrementally.

It's not so hard to imagine.

but is it becasue there's some shadowy cabal making it all happen, or is it because what with technology the world is a much smaller place, and we all have much bigger flyswatters, so if we still kept the same kind of territorial mindset we had in the 1800's and 1900's we'd all blow ourselves up?

[automatic]

wait. i'll save you the energy

Originally Posted by wum

fuck you auto.

[Grapes]

You know, you're not actually saving him that much energy when you do that. It doesn't take much energy to type.

Hmm. How about we just don't pick on the recently deceased?

You know what man? Normally, I would agree. But when someone is revealed to have been a bloodthirsty, dastardly, murderous pirate (someone in a position of TRUST, no less!) then really... how can you just defend them outright? Just gloss it over, is that what you're saying? Pretend it never happened, turn a blind eye, etc?

Sorry, but I prefer not to look at things with rose-coloured glasses. I think the sooner we can be TRUTHFUL about the Pope's pirate past, the sooner we can come to grips with it and move on.

In the end, that's what really matters. It's not just about the doubloons, you know.

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

but is it becasue there's some shadowy cabal making it all happen, or is it because what with technology the world is a much smaller place, and we all have much bigger flyswatters, so if we still kept the same kind of territorial mindset we had in the 1800's and 1900's we'd all blow ourselves up?

the first one

[Grapes]

You really are a Swedish meatball, aren't you?

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

so the way is see it there are two possibilities...

the pope's coffin had a skull and crossbones on it perpetuatuting a centuries long tradition of giving a little frisson of thrill to the people in power and affirming that the vatican is onside for the coming global takeover.

or....

because it's a COFFIN!

yarr!!!

Skull and Bones is a Masonic organization and the Papacy has always been opposed to the masons and their predicessors, the Templers since the time the Templers were surpressed.

The Skull and Bones are a universal sign of death adopted by as many diverse groups as the Templers, Hitler's SS, Ukrainian Anarchists, Serbian Chetniks, Ukrainian Nationalists and many others.

i know, it's scary

[Grapes]

Skull and Bones are a universal sign of death adopted by as many diverse groups as the Templers, Hitler's SS, Ukrainian Anarchists, Serbian Chetniks, Ukrainian Nationalists and many others.

Aaaaand?

AAAAANNNNDDDD???

That's right folks. Pirates. Case closed.

[Grapes]

Also the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Oakland Raiders. It should be noted, though, that they adopted their skull and bones themes as a tribute to pirates. (And not, as far as I'm aware, as a tribute to Hitler's SS.)

[Grapes]

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
EVERYTHING I READ ON THE INTERWEB MUST HAVE SOME TRUTH TO IT!!!!!!!

Sideshow Grapes says:
I wonder if he's joking sometimes

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
somebody should tell him that most of the stuff he reads is probably written by an overweight balding man from his mothers basement

Sideshow Grapes says:
that somebody should be you

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
the guy is probably writing yet another piece on shadowy people while last nights pizza still stains his already filthy wife beater and tighty whiteys

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
wum really dislikes it when I disarm his theories

Sideshow Grapes says:
this is good material man, just cut and paste

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
too much work with the mac

Sideshow Grapes says:
LOL

[Krusha]

the funny thing about you guys saying pirates is that you're right ... at least about the skull and bones

S&B was the recruiting grounds for the Russell Trust Company, which
managed S&B's treasury. Founded in 1824, Russell Trust became the dominant opium trafficking syndicate in the U.S. Russell Trust merged with the number one US trader, J&T.H. Perkins in 1829. By the mid-1830s the opium trade had become the largest commerce of its time in any single commodity, anywhere in the world.

The black flag with the white skull and crossbones, which was the corporate
flag gracing all Russell Trust ships, became the emblem of S&B that even to
this day it symbolizes piracy.

Now in terms of making a connection of the S&B with the vatican , which i havn't put together myself ... it's gonna take more then an emblem for me to make those kinds of claims

I'm not saying your wrong wum , but look into it a little more.

[mapleleaf4ever]

The Bank of Nova Scotia I believe was also founded by a Privateer back in the day as well. Funny how it was started by a plunderer and they still take money from people to this day. Ahhh, Tradition. :)

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by Grapes

You know what man? Normally, I would agree. But when someone is revealed to have been a bloodthirsty, dastardly, murderous pirate (someone in a position of TRUST, no less!) then really... how can you just defend them outright? Just gloss it over, is that what you're saying? Pretend it never happened, turn a blind eye, etc?

Sorry, but I prefer not to look at things with rose-coloured glasses. I think the sooner we can be TRUTHFUL about the Pope's pirate past, the sooner we can come to grips with it and move on.

In the end, that's what really matters. It's not just about the doubloons, you know.

No no no, you miss my point (most likely missed my second post too). I don't mean we forget about the person and never criticize them. It's just a personal belief of mine to honour the RECENTLY deceased. I think no matter who they are, no matter how bad they were, and no matter how they died, to give some honour to a life. Also, in respect to the people who actually care about the person that passed. Kinda like how you can't really crack jokes about someone who just died until some time has passed.

It sounds sappy, but it's just what I believe.

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Sideshow Grapes says:
this is good material man, just cut and paste

jim - will you bite the hand that feeds, will you chew it till it bleeds says:
too much work with the mac

Sideshow Grapes says:
LOL

How is it too much work with a Mac?

[Grapes]

^ Really, his computer just sucks.

It sounds sappy, but it's just what I believe.

:-| No comment.

[automatic]

Originally Posted by wum

The Skull and Bones are a universal sign of death adopted by as many diverse groups as the Templers, Hitler's SS, Ukrainian Anarchists, Serbian Chetniks, Ukrainian Nationalists and many others.

i know, it's scary

also used by common people to denote "death".

the pope is dead.

it's his coffin.

can't you at least just admit the possibility that there's no deeper meaning here?

[automatic]

so this guy is secretly an agent of the one-world government huh?



i can't prove he's not so it must be true!!!!

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by Nev

Pirates are totally hot!

the pope however, pirate or not, was NOT "totally hot!"

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

also used by common people to denote "death".

the pope is dead.

it's his coffin.

can't you at least just admit the possibility that there's no deeper meaning here?

Alex Jones is starting in ten minutes. Here ya go :)

mainstream

or

back up

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

but is it becasue there's some shadowy cabal making it all happen, or is it because what with technology the world is a much smaller place, and we all have much bigger flyswatters, so if we still kept the same kind of territorial mindset we had in the 1800's and 1900's we'd all blow ourselves up?

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_...bilderberg.mp3