Pope's coffin had SKULL & BONES on it!!1one

[PHUNK]

wum. seriously now. get a fucking life.

the pope had nothing to do with the s&b society. most of the s&b members are masons too, and according to catholics, if you are a mason and catholic, you will be shunned upon and basically cast out of the religion.

soooo, how could the pope be involved with masons? that makes no sense what so ever.

and alex jones? hahah. come on dude. seriously again, get a life. that guy is a fucking retard who is just seeking attention like michael moore, only he is not as fat.

[Scavello]

so the pope wasn't a pirate? what about global domination? i mean he WAS part of the catholic church after all.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by PHUNK

wum. seriously now. get a fucking life.

the pope had nothing to do with the s&b society. most of the s&b members are masons too, and according to catholics, if you are a mason and catholic, you will be shunned upon and basically cast out of the religion.

soooo, how could the pope be involved with masons? that makes no sense what so ever.

You haven't heard of Robert H. Schuller I gather.

Originally Posted by PHUNK

and alex jones? hahah. come on dude. seriously again, get a life. that guy is a fucking retard who is just seeking attention like michael moore, only he is not as fat.

Yeah, he's a christian puppet, but he does have some good info in regards to 9/11 and the medical industry. He's more credible then Moore, and has a different approach, I wouldn't really compare the 2 besides the fact that they are both chicken feed.

[djmarkpaul]

Obviously people on this site don't know why pirates ran up the skull and cross bones in the first place, even you Wum, because there is a great counter point waiting for you. Wum, you should look into that though, nobody else will probably. Little hint, look into where Yale got it's funding.

According to our PM last week on a national broadcast, the pope was trying to create a new world order. As empirical as that may be Wum, don't expect any of these fools to understand, I recommend you continue this excersize so long as it amuses you, otherwise I wouldn't waste your time.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by -ff-

so what?

that doesn't sound all that controversial to me.

Read the headline:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/eu...01/pope.ny.ap/

You have obviously not looked into the agenda of a NWO because it bothers you, order out of chaos.

[Grapes]

Obviously mark paul knows what he's talking about, because obviously he's well schooled in such matters. You'd obviously better respect his opinion, and enlighten yourselves, so you can attain his and Wum's exalted status.

If the sarcasm is a bit obvious, I apologize.

[acidic_liquid]

"You must spread karma around before giving it to Grapes again."

I thought I've never given you karma before :(

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Obviously mark paul knows what he's talking about, because obviously he's well schooled in such matters. You'd obviously better respect his opinion, and enlighten yourselves, so you can attain his and Wum's exalted status.

If the sarcasm is a bit obvious, I apologize.

Boy, it must be nerve wracking, living a life like theirs eh? Never knowing when the government is going to kick your door down for knowing too much. Its a wonder they've managed to keep the truth alive for so long!

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by -ff-

Boy, it must be nerve wracking, living a life like theirs eh? Never knowing when the government is going to kick your door down for knowing too much. Its a wonder they've managed to keep the truth alive for so long!

I used to have some respect for you, I can tell it will break your heart when I say I have lost that respect.

Freedom fighter huh?

How ironic, you don't seem to believe in freedom of speach, which is quite essential if you ask me.


***

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to my death for your right to say it..."

What's your take on this quote?

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

I used to have some respect for you, I can tell it will break your heart when I say I have lost that respect.

Freedom fighter huh?

How ironic, you don't seem to believe in freedom of speach, which is quite essential if you ask me.

Where on earth did I say I was against freedom of speech? I don't see anything in any of my posts telling you to stop posting, to shut up - none of that. I think you bring a lot to the board, particularly in your ability to stimulate debate and discussion. Sometimes somone has to take the radical position.

That said I am skeptical of some of your positions. Lets face it - a lot of them are pretty far out there. But being sarcastic/skeptical regarding the content of your posts has nothing to do with your right to make them.

If you've lost respect for me just because I disagree with your opinion, then I'm not really that sad to see it go.

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to my death for your right to say it..."

What's your take on this quote?

I agree with it completely.

[Hot Karl]

this thread is complete bullshit.

everyone knows the pope masterminded 9/11 with osama and saddam, while kim il jong agrees to take the role of crazy bastard. that's why there's a skull and crossbones on the pope's coffin, it symbolizes the airplane and the WTC.

how so? because you can't prove it wrong, therefore it is the unquestionable truth.

oh yea the roswell aliens provided john paul with the walkie talkie technology to maintain contact with osama's operatives.

/tinfoil off

[tahiti__treat]

i expect jeremy to say sumthing about this :p

[Grapes]

By the way, in case anyone is wondering why I'm ragging on MarkPaul, here's the charming karma message he sent me:

go watch "what the bleep do we know" and revise your institutionalized philosophy of world history, or you can continue being an idiot, it is mildly entertaining

Yeah. Draw your own conclusions.

[esoter1c]

Quit Throwing Pearls To The Swine. Take Off Your Tin Hat Wum/mark

[PHUNK]

markpaul...

"you can often measure a person by the size of his dream." or "the truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do. the hard part is doing it."

that robert h. schuller?? the hour of power guy?

[PHUNK]

Originally Posted by Grapes

By the way, in case anyone is wondering why I'm ragging on MarkPaul, here's the charming karma message he sent me:



Yeah. Draw your own conclusions.

i don't understand. he is giving you tips on how to not be such an idiot. i'd accept them and say thank you; then go rent that movie. i bet you would learn something about the world.

[wum]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Quit Throwing Pearls To The Swine. Take Off Your Tin Hat Wum/mark

i'm mostly bored. it doesn't hurt my feelings :)

[wum]

fucken rights.

the college professor offering the poli sci course 9/11: the Road to Tyranny is being interviewed by Alex Jones.

www.infowars.com

[xxViceRoyxx]

Originally Posted by PHUNK

wum. seriously now. get a fucking life.

hahaha Amen to that one.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by -ff-

Where on earth did I say I was against freedom of speech? I don't see anything in any of my posts telling you to stop posting, to shut up - none of that. I think you bring a lot to the board, particularly in your ability to stimulate debate and discussion. Sometimes somone has to take the radical position.

It's radical only because we live in a world where the masses are bred to be passive consumers and are indoctrinated so sophisticatedly that most can't break the bonds of their conditioned mindset. There are phony political debates and phony religious debates that keep people imprisoned into a state of fear, consumption, and obsession with image. Humankind is out of harmony with nature.

It is radical only because people find comfort in numbers to destroy every last vestige of what is pure and noble on this planet and it disgusts me, so call me radical but atleast I have the balls to question my own beliefs to realize how wide spread the corruption truly is.

Originally Posted by -ff-

That said I am skeptical of some of your positions. Lets face it - a lot of them are pretty far out there. But being sarcastic/skeptical regarding the content of your posts has nothing to do with your right to make them.

They are out there because you fail to look into them for yourself because the subject matter is so obscure to what we have been conditioned to believe what is true from our education system, corporate media, and our own dogmatic binary thinking. Being sarcastic or seemingly skeptical (which I would charge you of not true skepticism but rather denial) for these matters is actually counter preductive. You are infact aiding those who have created alot of suffering on this planet. By denying the existence of the illuminati, you are infact protecting them.

There is empirical evidence of a microchip population being planned, the destruction of an open market to a credit based market that is based not on raw materials but just numbers on a screen. That I can prove 100%. You look into it more and you can realize the connection between secret societies and a long standing agenda, that is questionable to apparent skeptics because it isn't based on empirical evidence soley. Though all you have to do is see the patterns, you can prove it from pattern recognition. Noticing that our society is moving into a police state, we have to take evasive action NOW before it is too late. By the time it can be proved empirically, it will be too late, looking at the patterns and taking evasive action is the ONLY way this society will not turn into a themepark meat factory.

Originally Posted by -ff-

If you've lost respect for me just because I disagree with your opinion, then I'm not really that sad to see it go.

That's not why. I guess my claim isn't completely fair then. However, it is not a matter of opinion. I have a belief:

OUR BELIEF SYSTEMS MUST CONSTANTLY BE REVISED IN ORDER FOR US NOT TO BE RULED BY THEM.

That in mind, people need to get over how ludicrous or radical these claims may SEEM and just plainly look into the things that are empircally provable, and move on from there.

Like the Mexican military having disclosure on the existance of UFOs, released march 5th 2004, even aired on international media. Or the northwoods declassified documents stating government agencies to attack their own soldiers to further military interests, government sponsored terrorism. Or the federal reserve which is not based on raw materials but just numbers on the screen. THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

Originally Posted by -ff-

I agree with it completely.

Then you better start taking the world more seriously, if you truly want to live up to your name.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Quit Throwing Pearls To The Swine. Take Off Your Tin Hat Wum/mark

Funny fake. Look you when you know of the illuminati and how far spread the corruption is, and don't take it upon yourself to spread the message, you become a party to that which you condone, and are an accessory after the fact. Besides, I like a good roast, and tin foil allows it to be cooked evenly!

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by PHUNK

markpaul...

"you can often measure a person by the size of his dream." or "the truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do. the hard part is doing it."

that robert h. schuller?? the hour of power guy?

That's him alright, his cover is blown, he's a fake christian/mason. You probably already know, but don't talk to any masons about this shit ;) ... unless you hear some pigeons flying by chirping "coooo, cooooo."

[sidekick]

people like you, djmarkpaul, really bother me. you talk about how our society is satiated with consumerism (which it is) and how the human race has fallen out of touch with nature (which it has) and yet, instead of trying to reach people, you just make them feel like idiots.

what's funny is that you don't realize that lots of people on this board share a lot of the same opinions as you. granted, i'm not as radical in my thinking as you are, but i agree that consumerism runs rampant in our society, and i agree that many things are corrupt and that money and power and greed have become the central pillars holding up a civilization that has to collapse at some point if we continue on the path we have chosen.

but man, your tactics at talking to people really need to be worked on. if you really want to get out there and wake people up and make them realize the things that you're trying to convince them of...then insulting them and making them feel like mass consumer sheep is not the way to do it. you seem like a pretty smart guy, and i would have thought you would have figured this point out already. people generally don't like to be insulted and they're not going to listen to someone who belittles them and takes on a high-and-mighty attitude toward his beliefs.

if you just toned down your 'hate' for the rest of the people in the world and spoke to them like actual human beings instead of retarded little kids then maybe some of your points would get accross.

some people feel the same way you do about many of the subjects that you talk about, but you always shoot them down because you automatically assume that they're not as 'radical' and are corrupted by the 'system'. you need to learn to give people a chance before you turn up your chin and start spouting your greater-than-thou philosophy.

now maybe i'm completely wrong about you...maybe you really don't want to reach other people. maybe you have given up on us poor dogs in the rest of the society. the way you write your posts now, it seems like this is the case. it looks as though you're just writing the posts to make yourself feel better and to remind yourself just how much dumber everyone else is than you and how blinded they are and how only YOU know the real truth.

i mean, if you are actually writing these posts to reach people and help them learn the 'truth' as you see it...why would you go around making them feel like idiots? doesn't sound like a very good tactic to me.

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Then you better start taking the world more seriously, if you truly want to live up to your name.

I'm sorry dude, but now you're just being patronizing. I read a lot of news (from a lot of different sources), with what I think is a pretty critical eye. I've spent four years studying political science in school. I'm not some kind of ignorant or blind sheep.

And before you start getting all holy about how all of the mass media is all secretly owned by the corrupt NWO and our education institutions have been subverted and are secretly actually just propaganada factories, check yourself for one second. Not everyone except for you and your few trusted sources at your favorite websites is just some moronic automaton incapable of seeing the world for what it really is. The people who work for those media outlets? Those CBC and BBC reporters? What - are they just stupid? Have they all lost their ethics? They're either incapable of finding out these secret truths or have all been paid off? The professors at our universities - what about them? I have a lot of respect for some of these people and have worked very closesly with them. Some of them are the most brilliant political, analytical, or critical minds I have ever met - and some of them have exposed me to some very incicsive critical theory (pick up a book by theador adorno, herbert marcuse, or michel foucault one day) so I don't think that I've just been fed pablum or trained to see the world as 'those shady guys controlling everything want me to.'

Just because I don't buy into your 'aliens in deep underground military bases are secretly conspiring with the lizard people and the pope' theories doesn't mean that I'm sitting here jacking off to britany spears and buying into the world on offer through Fox News. My perception of 'taking the world seriously' is perhaps just a little different than yours. The fact that I think unrestrained global capital, bad american foreign policy, and discrimination are the most pressing problems facing the world right now just means my analysis of the problems is different than yours. So take your condescending conspiracy theory spewing self rigteousness and shove it, okay?

[sidekick]

^and THAT'S the annoying part about you, djmarkpaul. don't think people are getting all annoyed because of your ideas and your 'truths'. it's not that at all. they get annoyed at how you talk to them. about how you assume that everyone besides you and a few select people (like simon said) are stupid and blinded by some sort of mass 'system'. i agree completely with simon (FF) on his points.

so don't think that everyone here is getting uppity because of your radical posts and controversial ideas. it's just the demeaning way you present them that pisses everyone off.