Doc. on the Fed Reserve and the history of the banking scam. this affects YOU!

[Phat Conductor]

i don't think i could ever possibly recommend a documentary more highly. this is THE issue. it got caesar killed, it got lincoln killed, it got jfk killed and was THE PRINCIPLE ISSUE of american politics until the last 30 years.

the fact is that international banks have created a debt based system by which no country can EVER get out of debt. they make money out of nothing and charge us interest on it. they control the so called 'business cycle' and cause depressions and booms to suit their own personal aims.

this documentary contains no conspiracy theory, only facts, and quotes from presidents, bank owners, and leading economists. the solution proposed in this video is nothing radical, and has proven itself again and again throughout history. it was proposed by many of the first presidents, and Milton Freidman himself.

the monetary reform movement is very big in canada, and we have a unique position of being able to make a real difference here.

check it out...



http://www.themoneymasters.com/

THE MONEY MASTERS (1996) is a 3 1/2 hour non-fiction, historical documentary that traces the origins of the political power structure that rules our nation and the world today. The modern political power structure has its roots in the hidden manipulation and accumulation of gold and other forms of money. The development of fractional reserve banking practices in the 17th century brought to a cunning sophistication the secret techniques initially used by goldsmiths fraudulently to accumulate wealth. With the formation of the privately-owned Bank of England in 1694, the yoke of economic slavery to a privately-owned "central" bank was first forced upon the backs of an entire nation, not removed but only made heavier with the passing of the three centuries to our day. Nation after nation, including America, has fallen prey to this cabal of international central bankers.

The success of the central banking scheme developed into a far-reaching plan described by President Clinton's mentor, Georgetown Professor Carroll Quigley, "to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank....sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the levels of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

Several short-lived attempts to impose the central banking scheme on the United States were defeated by the patriotic efforts of Presidents Madison, Jefferson, Jackson, Van Buren and Lincoln. But with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, America was firmly lashed to the same yoke, so that a small number of very rich men have been able to lay upon the masses a yoke little better than slavery itself. That yoke inevitably grows heavier with ever-compounding interest, and totals over $20 trillion of debt owed by the American people today ($80,000 per American) ultimately to these bankers.

This vast accumulation of wealth concentrates immense power and despotic economic domination in the hands of the few central bankers "who are able to govern credit and its allotment, for this reason supplying, so to speak, the life-blood to the entire economic body, and grasping, as it were, in their hands the very soul of the economy so that no one dare breathe against their will." A worldwide tyranny is gradually being imposed, hidden to most, by THE MONEY MASTERS.

torrent:
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edonkey2000:
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[Phat Conductor]

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/40...db_Documentary

[esoter1c]

Usury was banned for centuries until Benjamin Disraeli came to Power in England.:188:

Usury is the oldest trick in the book, otherwise known as Interest.

The 13 Families/Bloodlines rule the Planet through these means.:sh4n3:

Rothschild/Rockefeller run the world.

Americas entire financial system is run on Rockefellers pocket change.:285:

[SEAN!]

I could go into a long arguement detailing how this documentary is ignorant fear mongering but i wont. central banks arent privately owned, they are owned by the governments in which they operate, often times their policies are closely controlled by the government.

this is conspiracy theory, this is what happens when paranoid people who dont know what their talking about try to explain and simplify complex ideas and phenomena.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

I could go into a long arguement detailing how this documentary is ignorant fear mongering but i wont. central banks arent privately owned, they are owned by the governments in which they operate, often times their policies are closely controlled by the government.

this is conspiracy theory, this is what happens when paranoid people who dont know what their talking about try to explain and simplify complex ideas and phenomena.

:285:

Yes Usury is a conspiracy.

International Banking is a conspiracy.

You're a fuckin' tit kid.

Take your Uni degrees and stick em' up your ass you brainwashed tard.:tounge1:

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

:285:

Yes Usury is a conspiracy.

International Banking is a conspiracy.

You're a fuckin' tit kid.

Take your Uni degrees and stick em' up your ass you brainwashed tard.:tounge1:

yeah its a 'conspiracy' to make money, not take over the world.

why dont you pop another microdot and come up with some more theories.

[Phat Conductor]

please don't fight here.

the federal reserve has been ruled BY THE US SUPREME COURT to be private corporation again and again.

it is listed in the business pages. look it up.

this is no conspiracy 'theory'

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

yeah its a 'conspiracy' to make money, not take over the world.

why dont you pop another microdot and come up with some more theories.

It already has taken over the world tit.

Quit believing all the shit they pump your empty head full of.

Tell me Globalization is a good thing now to complete the trifecta of ignorance.:285:

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Phat Conductor

the federal reserve has been ruled BY THE US SUPREME COURT to be private corporation again and again.

That's because they know who signs their cheques. :285:

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Phat Conductor

please don't fight here.

the federal reserve has been ruled BY THE US SUPREME COURT to be private corporation again and again.

it is listed in the business pages. look it up.

this is no conspiracy 'theory'

no they ruled that the government could not interferre with its policies so as not to promote political malfeasence. Politicians like to interfer with the policies of the central bank for short term political gain and it often has disasterious long term effects, latin america especially argentina (and probably venseuzala sometime in the future) are prime examples. It is privately run, not privately owned, and the people who run most central banks are typically academics and not active business leaders. finally the central bankers of the cb of canada and the federal reserve board are appointed by the government. Why do you think its called the FEDERAL reserve board?

esoteric do you know any theoretical or applied economics/finance or is your entire understanding of the world gleaned from www.unmedicatedschizophrenics.com? you're the one getting your head pumped full of shit as shown many times as you get your ass repeatedly owned by a multitude of the members of this board.

if theres one form of esoteric 'science' that effects everyone in the world(asides from theoretical physics) its finance and you are certainly not one of the chosen few.

there can be many critiques made of central bankers and their policies but none of the ones made within this thread are particularly valid.

[Phat Conductor]

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

Abraham Lincoln wrote:
Corporations have been enthroned an era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power will endeavor to prolong its reign
by working on the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.

Abraham Lincoln wrote:
The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy and more selfish than a bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at the rear is my greatest foe.

Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company wrote:
It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

Benito Mussolini wrote:
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power.

Smedley D Butler (1881-1940) Major General of US Marines wrote:
I spent 33 years in the marines.
Most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business for wall street and the bankers. In short I was a racketeer for capitalism. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for american oil interests in 1914. I brought light to the Dominican republic for american sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the national city bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen central american republics for the benefits of wall street.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Phat Conductor

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

Abraham Lincoln wrote:
Corporations have been enthroned an era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power will endeavor to prolong its reign
by working on the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.

Abraham Lincoln wrote:
The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy and more selfish than a bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at the rear is my greatest foe.

Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company wrote:
It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

Benito Mussolini wrote:
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power.

Smedley D Butler (1881-1940) Major General of US Marines wrote:
I spent 33 years in the marines.
Most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business for wall street and the bankers. In short I was a racketeer for capitalism. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for american oil interests in 1914. I brought light to the Dominican republic for american sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the national city bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen central american republics for the benefits of wall street.

thats great but it dosnt address or have any revelance to what i just wrote. its just irrational reactionary bullshit from a bunch of people who have no formal understanding of monetary economics, finance or the role of central banks and financial institutions in our economy.

the link between those statements and the fractional reserve system and central banks is highly dubious if not non-existant.

im not syaing that are eocnomic system isnt corrupt im just syaing you have no idea what your talking about

[Phat Conductor]

Here's Friedman's famous Case For Overhauling the Federal Reserve:
http://www.tamu-commerce.edu/ecofin/...k/572/yesa.txt

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Phat Conductor

Here's Friedman's famous Case For Overhauling the Federal Reserve:
http://www.tamu-commerce.edu/ecofin/...k/572/yesa.txt

i know all about it, ive read that article about 4 times(actually no, it seems like a mixture of a bunch of his articles, or atleast a summary of a bunch of shit he's written) and subscribe to the same line of economic thought that he has created. It still has little to do with the arguments you are putting forward.

do you knwo what this is like? this is like me coming up to you on stage, screaming in your face that you cant pitch fade like that when i know dick all about mixing, or yelling at esoteric that C++ and java are tools of a 1200 year old conspiracy. Then when you disagree with me and tell me whats really going on, I yell at you saying your a brainwashed idiot peon even though youve devoded much of your life to mastering your art and i clearly dont know the first thing about it.

p.s just so you know, alan greenspan the ex chairman of the federal reserve board, and ben barnaeke the new chairman both more or less adhere to the same monetarist views that friedman put forward.

[esoter1c]

So you're schooled in bullshit, wowee.

You believe everything they tell you.

Your head is full of shit.

You think Usury is a good thing ?

Seriously tell me Usury is a good thing, that national debts are good.

Tell me the IMF and World Bank are good.

Tell me Globalization is good.

Tell me that another Black monday is what we need.

By your reasoning you took a class in bullshit and since you know a million different ways/terms to rip people/countries off you're educated.

In Bullshit.

Wake up you 3 Piece suit Puppet.

You're like a cheerleader for the NWO.:285:

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

I could go into a long arguement detailing how this documentary is ignorant fear mongering but i wont. central banks arent privately owned, they are owned by the governments in which they operate, often times their policies are closely controlled by the government.

this is conspiracy theory, this is what happens when paranoid people who dont know what their talking about try to explain and simplify complex ideas and phenomena.

CONSIPRACY THEORY?

what theroy?...all you have to do is dig a little further into the info your subjected to every day to see that this is ABSOLUTLEY REAL!!!

im not a nut, im not a conspiracy theroist but im a consumer of information and data.

the explicit intent to control the worlds wealth and regulate it amongst the worlds top 20% is true.and is evident all throught the course of human history.

be careful of taking everything you hear, in whatever economics courses youve taken, as THE 'TRUTH'. Nor do i take everythng i read as absolute truth but rather look at ALL data and draw the best conclusion i can.

We are controlled and shaped and subjected to behaviour control since birth.
advertising agencies spend billions of dollars per year to research more effeictive way of branding childrens minds...educational institutions are guilty as well....doing there very very best to churn out as many worker drones as possible. alot of people arnt evan aware of the cycle they are directed to live...much like cattel. ...it gose something like this.

YOU WORK
YOU GO HOME
YOU GO TO THE SOTRE

YOU WORK
YOU GO HOME
YOU GO TO THE STORE

YOU WORK
YOU GO HOME
YOU GO TO THE STORE

slave,rest,consume
slave,rest,consume
slave,rest,consume

but its ok right? your just keeping up with the jones's right? aslong as you have a nice house and a nice car right?

MONEY AND BRANDING is the most effective form of population control ever divised in human history. stronger than religion.

if i ran the world thats the way i would want it.....to have my population sleepwalking thorugh life with dollar signs over their eyes

as jordan maxwell would say:
"you better do your homework"

[fable]

Originally Posted by revolver

MONEY AND BRANDING is the most effective form of population control ever divised in human history. stronger than religion.

When i woke up this morning, the last thing i thought i would do would be agreeing on something with you. But this statement holds quite a lot of relevence, and im hard pressed to think of any action, or contemporary entity that would equal these two.

Where do you think war fits into this? Could it be a product, or a symptom?

[fable]

Usury is the oldest trick in the book, otherwise known as Interest.

Ive never heard of the term "usary" before. Can you hook me up with some more links, or books/resources to check out. I dont know too much about the the Federal Reserve bank, how it operates, nor what its function is?

[FlorpIncarnate]

The ability to "create money" in the form of credit is definitely one of the greater problems of our society.

I still think the gold standard was the right idea.

Money is supposed to represent VALUE, and I think that becomes unclear when it can be created out of thin air.

Oh, and Revolver/Fable: Do you really think money and branding are more powerful than religion for controlling people? I'm not disagreeing, but I'm skeptical. Obviously it's not a testable question, but from past experience and from watching religious people, I tend to think that religious faith is a stronger control mechanism than money.

Certainly money effects your quality of life, but religion effects your philosophy/morals/actions in almost all aspects of life.

Oh, and Sean... I think you should stop replying to 3507321C. There's more productive things to do than to feed the trolls.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by fable

When i woke up this morning, the last thing i thought i would do would be agreeing on something with you. But this statement holds quite a lot of relevence, and im hard pressed to think of any action, or contemporary entity that would equal these two.

Where do you think war fits into this? Could it be a product, or a symptom?

lol...yah no doubt fable, i think i just saw a pig fly across my window:)

anyway, I think war is a by-product of money. both in the way of controlling it, and perhaps more sinister,.... a method of generating it.

im suprised with the amount of reading that you do you havent come acrros the term usary before. Usuary is the term jewish merchants and other nobles and lords used for interest on money lended during the middle ages.

toss it around in google for abit to see what i mean, cause i dont have any links on hand cause im on a work computer.

[C_squared]

It's all true.

There is NO theory and YES its ALLLL Fact.

[esoter1c]

Certainly money effects your quality of life, but religion effects your philosophy/morals/actions in almost all aspects of life.

Oh, and Sean... I think you should stop replying to 3507321C. There's more productive things to do than to feed the trolls.

Religion only affects you IF you are religious, money affects you either/or.

I am not a Troll because you're a Uni puppet too.

Point out where I am wrong and maybe you won't look like a lil' baby.

Or do you like Int'l debt/IMF/World Bank/Globalization/NWO.

Oh ya you're a Uni Puppet of course you think these things are good.:285:

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by fable

Ive never heard of the term "usary" before. Can you hook me up with some more links, or books/resources to check out. I dont know too much about the the Federal Reserve bank, how it operates, nor what its function is?

Usury was what Jesus threw the money lenders of the temple steps for.

It's a scummy backstabbing @%$ way of lending money.

It was banned for centuries until like I said good ol' Benjamin Disraeli (Guess what he is) weasled his way into power in England, thats when the Bank of England was created and usury was made legal.

You know what Interest is and how it works so there isn't much more to know than it sucks and is the root of national debt.

Without usury everyone would be rich not just Int'l Bankers.

But what do I know I'm not in University learning what the system wants me to know.....how to become a blind cog in the machine.:prince:

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by FlorpIncarnate

The ability to "create money" in the form of credit is definitely one of the greater problems of our society.

I still think the gold standard was the right idea.

Money is supposed to represent VALUE, and I think that becomes unclear when it can be created out of thin air.

Oh, and Revolver/Fable: Do you really think money and branding are more powerful than religion for controlling people? I'm not disagreeing, but I'm skeptical. Obviously it's not a testable question, but from past experience and from watching religious people, I tend to think that religious faith is a stronger control mechanism than money.

Certainly money effects your quality of life, but religion effects your philosophy/morals/actions in almost all aspects of life.

Oh, and Sean... I think you should stop replying to 3507321C. There's more productive things to do than to feed the trolls.

bwaahha blake i think you were just called a troll....thats fuckig funny.

federal reserve notes are worth NOTHING.

gold and land is what is measuerd as 'true' wealth and the majority of it is owned by the blue bloods. reserve notes are a farce. the reserve system is a farce. you think its real? then walk down to the reserve with a $20 draft and demand that drafts vaule in gold.

it wont happen.

in the US their hasent been a proper bank 'note' since the green backs of lincons time. when a note was actually worth its value in gold or silver as backed up by the 'reserve'

now thanks to this sickening,dispicable practice of high interest rates(usury),inflation and other banking 'scams' worthless 'bank notes' are printed to back up non-existant wealth.

usary has systematically degraded human civillization.

it has created a fales idea and representation of what wealth really is.

if you think it sounds crazy just wait untill the system implodes on itself or a major natural disaster occurrs.....'money' as we know it to be will be worthless.

your absolutly,without question, 100% RIGHT when you say the gold standard is a good idea

[esoter1c]

bwaahha blake i think you were just called a troll....thats fuckig funny.

Usually happens when one cannot refute the facts with anything but child like banter.

I'm still waiting for flop to say something pertinent.

Or Sean to dazzle us with some more Uni propaganda.:285:

"I paid 300$ for this text book so everything in it must be true and right.."

Fuckin suuuuuuuuuuuckeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.