Thoughts on how Meth is evil

[Rytalin]

its evil.
it fucks you up.
it kills your soul and turns you into a robot.

but how exactly?


think about this.

(and bear with me :) )

when you melt wax and drop it onto a piece of fabric, its pretty hard to get out, right?
you pull most of it off, but the wax that soaked deep into the fabric is still there, and pretty damn hard to get out. (although I've heard freezing it off can work)

Lets say you dropped a TON of melted wax onto your jeans. they get completely covered in it. They got that wax soaked right into the fibre that makes them up. pretty tough to get back out of the pants.



enough about wax and pants though....

you know that when you smoke meth, you are supposed to exhale quickly so that the smoke doesn't recrystalize in your lungs, right?

yeah.

the stuff that makes it thru the lung tissue will still recrystalize eventually, in some part of your body or another.

Maybe...

Your skin.
Your brain.
Your balls.
Your groin.
Your eye.
Your nervous system.

:sick:

it puts a nice shellac-like coat overtop of whatever it recrystalizes on.


and shellac doesn't really conduct electricity all that well.
put like 10000 volts thru it and maybe some will pass thru it, but the human nervous system doesn't operate on that sort of voltage.

only tiny little electron pulses travel thru the nervous system, telling various muscles to move, telling organs what to do, telling the heart to beat, etc.

Keeping Proper Rhythm.

but what happens if the destination node of an nerve impulse has a nice coat of recrystallized meth on it?

:284:

something will definetly happen, maybe a twitch or something, but that was not what the nerve impulse was supposed to do.

it kinda got diverted.

Rewired, if you will.


:keebler:
which leads me to the Brain.


The brain is essentially a huge neural matrix. A mass of connections, that neurons travel between, sending and recieving messages, routing data to the right place, sending nerve impulses down the spine to certain parts of the body.

Anything you do, say, sense, think of or remember will help strengthen or weaken connections in your brain. (sense = the 5 senses, as well as any sort of ESP/premonition sense people may feel)

Keep in mind, these are still electrons and other such particles that flow thru the electrically conductive brain, making it function.
the phatter the physical link between 2 neural nodes, the more electrical current can flow between them... The Stronger The Connection.

Now, throw a big wad of semi recrystallized meth onto that.

:trippin:

Well, it does release alot of dopamine, the neurotransmitter of the ego, so in that sense, that big wad o' meth will feel pretty fuckin awesome.

Then it crystalizes and the shards begin to poke into various neural conduits in your brain. some get sliced by passing crystals, some get a coat of meth crystalized around it, some get a crystal shoved right thru the centre of it, making the crystal part of the way the connection works.

it messes up your brain a bit, makes you not able to think as straight... then the dopamine rush dies down.

:kam:
OH FUCK
what's going on?

I can't fuckin think.

guess I'd hit the pipe again.

:finger:

Enter more substance to the body and brain, release more dopamine, and your fine again... for awhile.....

Just a thought.

[Rytalin]

:185:
And that was just the physical side of things.

If you think about things spiritually, think about how the chakras work.

I see each chakra in the body as being a gateway from the spirit world. In order for these gateways to function properly, they need to have healthy organs around them that they can channel energy into.

Coat those organs with smoked meth, and they probably aren't going to work properly.

Oh yeah, then fill your brain with dopamine so that your ego totally overshadows the spiritual side of you.

They weren't joking when they said meth is evil, how it fucks with your soul, and such.



so be careful.


:imeanwell

[Kelster]

there's no denying that meth isn't good, but i think a lot of people over exagerate when they talk bout it, its actually kinda annoying

why aren't there posts like 'COKE is the devil' 'my friends SMOKE and it's DESTROYING our friendship'

it's as evil as your lack of control over your habit

[Rytalin]

This is true.
things are only as bad or good as we let them be.

methamphetamine just seems to be REALLY efficient at destroying the people that make a habit out of it.

[dj4mula]

Does meth actually give people a high? What is so addictive about it? Why would someone want to stay up? What exactly is meth?

I've seen many people do meth and the results of it and to me its almsot worse that heroine.

`t1m

[~*faeryfly*~]

Originally posted by Rytalin
This is true.
things are only as bad or good as we let them be.

methamphetamine just seems to be REALLY efficient at destroying the people that make a habit out of it.

I agree with Rytalin...I watched as far to many of my friends fell apart completely from that horrible horrible drug. & the most devastating part of all is that it took away who they were, they're "truest colours" had vanished, and all that they were left with was a down ward spiral of chaotic addiction. Now, this is the result of just "experimenting" with meth. It is SO highly addictive..that it became totally out of control. Most of my friends have managed to put it in they're past, But they are still scarred with the damage it has done..it has slightly changed them personality wise & in some of the ways they think. I don't know what else to say other than it is disqusting. I'm not joking when I say this, unless you want the life to be sucked out of you, stay away from that SHIT. Ew, Meth frightens me so much. Rytalin, the way you explain in this thread seriously hits the nail on the head...nuff said
*runs away*

[Kelster]

eh i bet if whoever was 'experimenting' with heroine instead of meth, you'd be posting the same thing but about heroine....meth obviously affects most of us more then any other drug

think bout smoking...
i was hunting this weekend, and my uncle just had to light up a fucking smoke...i'm freezing my ass off on a mountain, sitting in deer shit with my leg half asleep because i want to catch a deer and the best he can do is not smoke for a couple hours
i know there's better examples but that's fresh and i'm still pretty annoyed, he's a good guy and i know he wasn't trying to be rude, but he thought he could get away with it
think bout the smokers who get cancer...if things are bad enough they're hooked up to air bags 24/7, or they're breathing out of a hole in their neck. sometimes it doesn't only affect them, but their loved one as well with asthma or cancer

think bout alcohol...
people lose jobs, friends, and marriages to it
once in awhile is allright, but some people get addicted and feel the need to get tanked everyday...to the point where you're saying dumb shit and you can't hold a conversation with your boss

i think most of us know someone we cared about, that we lost to meth...it's harsh, but it always is when we lose someone

[-DLO_604-]

Never Touched Meth. Never Will. I'm quitting all drugs PERIOD.

No more E. No more Speed and yeah no more weed!!!!

[inkster]

...next on urban myths gone wild!

[Pho Bich Nga]

agreed, smoking meth is very very bad. it honestly changes people from the first time ever so slightly, most dont even notice it but it's true. i wish i knew more about the subject, like can a previously heavy user ever regain their old state of mentality? i dont use meth by choice but ill admit its in every cap i pop at a party. no drugs are a good thing but from all ive seen meth is the only one that can transform the fibres of ones being into something unrecognizable. Rytalin props on the break down it was interesting. i wish all people knew that before they try it.

[decypher]

Originally posted by dj4mula
Does meth actually give people a high? What is so addictive about it? Why would someone want to stay up? What exactly is meth?

I've seen many people do meth and the results of it and to me its almsot worse that heroine.

`t1m

dj4mula, yeh when u smoke jib, after a couple hoots, u exhale and u get this intense rush, sorta like the rush from E but condensed into a few seconds, then ur just jacked up, u feel great, and u can focus on things really well, u seem like a better person and u seem like u can accomplish things u normally cant, then after this rush, u level off, then the rush keeps coming back for at least 5-8 hours on and off, depending on how often u do it... this level'ing off period is bad because then u end up doing more to keep getting higher and higher, and the come down is horrible, cuz it lasts for sooo long, just giving u more of a chance to do it again to stop the come down,.... this all contributes to the habit, jibheads feel like they are better at accomplishing things, and believe they are better off high then not high, then ur hooked...

[Discord]

lately i noticed its people who do to much acid that "lose" there souls......or who lose there senes of reality, and real spirituality.

because people use meth, to get high, not to explore its diffrent.

people who use Cid to explore tend to think things that arnt real.....



And i'm talking about people who do Cid ALOT, not just once and a while.


but at least there souls stay inside your body, and not evaporate like meth does.

[KStar]

Meth is so disgusting..

It completely changes a person..

I have gone through soooooooo much bullshit because of this drug

My friends have changed into people they arent..
Ive had a friend of 4 years rip me off 1000$$

It makes people full of themselves..bitchy.. and completly retarded...


I don't even want to hang out with my so called "best friend" anymore........

I could go off for hours about how gross it is and how EVIL it makes a person..... How many people I know who it has ruined.. some of the things I've seen NO ONE would eveer sunderstand..

DONT DO IT .. ever..

I tried it once a few years ago just to see what the hype was all about and why all my friends were doing it..

I did it maybe 15 times in 2 years....... its a lot of fun .. but gross.. and I lost a lot of respect when people found out i did it even once......

point is.. u may say u can only do it once.. but gaurenteed you will do it more then that..

its nasty ..

[BabyStylez]

what she said^ :284:

[Rytalin]

Originally posted by Discord
lately i noticed its people who do to much acid that "lose" there souls......or who lose there senes of reality, and real spirituality.
because people use meth, to get high, not to explore its diffrent.
people who use Cid to explore tend to think things that arnt real.....
And i'm talking about people who do Cid ALOT, not just once and a while.
but at least there souls stay inside your body, and not evaporate like meth does.

who are you basing that observation on?

Acid makes you more aware of what your brain and body are doing... this can trigger anything from a spiritual experience to psychosis to heightened logical abilities to just really cool visuals.

Once you are more aware of how your brain works, and how energy enters in and filters thru your body, you can rationalize it more, in order to make better use of it.

If your already some depressed gawth kid in the first place, then I'm not suprised at all that acid would appear to dull down spirituality. You can only be as happy/open/connected as you let yourself be.

in the outside world, acid'll make you see the connections between everything, and maybe also make you alot more
sensitive to them
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(I was typing out a response to this before, and my computer froze, right out of the blue. I take that as a sign, I've noticed spirits tend to talk to me thru computer glitches and such. It didn't mean I was going to die though. It was just a sign that I had to rethink how to type this response.)

using a drug just to get high tends to fuel the ego just as much as the spirit.
in the case of meth, which operates primarily on dopamine, it fuels ONLY the ego, and kind of dulls down the spirit.

acid tends to work on both ego and spirit, in varying ammounts, depending on who you are.

[stringbeans]

why bother trying to stop people from doing it? just think of it as population control

wwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee

[Goat]

^ Stringbeans is right. People have been warned.

abuse of any drug will fuck you up. jib's just one that'll fuck you up more in a shorter period of time than most others.

a couple hints young jibbernauts in training:
-try to stay away from mashing (injecting). fucks up your arteries and heart royally.
-after a good month of solid smoking, don't be surprised when you start coughing up yellow.
- if you start getting pains in your chest from the pressure, you probably held in a blast too long. to alleviate, make a puffy cheek face like a squirrel or baboon, then exhale.
- as of day 4 and on don't worry about the voices or the people hiding in the bush watching you, that's normal. you just need sleep.
- don't be surprised many years down the road if you have gut rot in your intestines, this is from not having regular bowl movements from smoking jib.
- try to eat at least once every 8 days.
- water is your friend, drink it.
- every once in a while you may find yourself extremely itchy and scratching at your skin, once again, normal, it's the jib comin out of your skin in oil cuz your body can't break it down and expunge through urination or defication.


enjoy.

[stringbeans]

Originally posted by Goat

- every once in a while you may find yourself extremely itchy and scratching at your skin, once again, normal, it's the jib comin out of your skin in oil cuz your body can't break it down and expunge through urination or defication.


enjoy.

yummy!

[cerah]

Originally posted by stringbeans
why bother trying to stop people from doing it? just think of it as population control

Population control... riiiight. It's actually rather hard to OD on jib alone. If anything the 13-15 year old suburbanite kids who've already started smoking/snorting jib on a regular basis are going to put an INCREDIBLE drain on the already strained mental health care system in say 10-20 years when they're all fucking schizophernic.

Jib is BY FAR the worst drug out there. It has the highest relapse rate... the slowest recovery rate (months... years... as opposed to weeks for a heroin addict)... one of (if not the) higgest addiction rates (after heroin) and fucks up the most shit in your body... especially these days with drug quality going down the hole as demand increases DRASTICALLY.

Yes alcohol is bad... yes smoking is bad... yes coke and heroin and all sortsa other drugs are bad but jib outshines them all... trust me. I've read tons on jib, alcohol and smoking addictions. Everything from the vaults of erowid to the stories they've been writing in the Vancouver Sun as of late (and yes everything they say in those articles is true and not over-exagerated).

I've delt with alcohol addiction... smoking... and quite the meth habit. I've managed to beat them all although it's taken me close about a year and a half to do so. I've researched a lot since then to understand what I've done to my body so I know I'm not just talking out of my ass and jumping on the "Jib is EVIL" bandwagon.

Jib has become an epidemic in this city that we'll be sure to hear about time and again and with much more frequency as the problem grows and grows. There's very little we can do about it right now except inform people of the truth behind it before they start experimenting. A few years back when I was doing mass amounts of jib the only people who really knew about it were ravers n club goers pretty much... now it's absolutely everywhere. It's easier to get downtown on Granville street then pot... and we live in VANCOUVER!! All my kid brother's friends are doing it and that's in the lil suburbia heaven of White Rock.

DO NOT down play jib, it's effects and it's powerful addiction that entraps just about everyone who tries it... that's the biggest mistake you'll ever make.

[Goat]

i think i gotta find those pictrues from when i was strung out, 135 pounds, homeless, and jibbed outa my yack. those would make great poster child for drug addiction pics.

"don't do jib, you'll turn out like me "

DO NOT down play jib, it's effects and it's powerful addiction that entraps just about everyone who tries it... that's the biggest mistake you'll ever make.

it's funny when you start off as a newb, you hear all these warnings from people about jib and you say "ya ya ya, i know"...and then BAM > jib has it's ugly head and half a shoulder and arm stuck up your ass and you're yelling at the bushes to stop looking at you.

[baby_bluez]

jib is gross. GROSSNESS.
i shant even comment anymore. just... anyone who tries it without finding out what those cystally little shards may have instore for you.... is a raging FOOL!
:sick:

[wigglesworth]

Jibs not evil. If you're not smart enough at the time, to look around you and see how fucked up others are from it....and then never touch it with a ten foot poll....then you probably need to get hooked to smarten up.
dont blame things for your own problems...

[Rytalin]

^good point.

I actually see all amphetamines almost as a sort of AI, cos of how they make you function without really thinking.

(ps the thread title was just meant as an attention grabber, I do agree with you that no drug itself is actually evil)

[MC Hammered]

Originally posted by dj4mula
Does meth actually give people a high? What is so addictive about it? Why would someone want to stay up? What exactly is meth?

I've seen many people do meth and the results of it and to me its almsot worse that heroine.

`t1m

If you want to know what it does then read the article I posted in this thread.

http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.p...130#post362130

Crystal addiction is scary shit.

[kidmanic]

Meth was my drug of choice for almost a year.
Everything else pales in comparison the length and intensity of this high.
Railing it was the only way to go.
Running for hours on end was fun; classes and people were infinitely more interesting too and I ended up graduating with +90% average.
People that use facts and research on how much it fucks yer brain up and how evil it is didn't phase me one bit. I knew I was getting stupider, but it was fun; I didn't care.
But after a certain point, that 18+ hours of happiness is nothing compared to the week of depression that ensues afterwards. I don't think there are any magic words that instantly convert people.

Chalk up my permanent retirement from drugs to a recent lack of euphoria.