hi remember that time i was a parent

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Avana

not speaking ill against your mom. but when i had chicken pox, my mom had someone else who wasnt working take me to the doctor, and i stayed home by myself that week. she wanted to ensure that she always had a job to be able to take care of me. if i was too sick for daycare, then someone else took me in for the day.

if my mom can do it without claiming ill child at home, in a time where it was less accepted to, then why cant you now?

ps - i had surgery last summer. my mom took a total of 3 hours off that week to pick me up and drive me home from the hospital. and she was still pushing that i take a cab.

So you're suggesting that my mom should have left me home alone when I was 9? That's just bad parenting.

Some people have the luxury of being able to pass their sick kids off to another family member. Unfortunately for my mom, she was also a single parent and she had to work - my dad worked, all my grandparents were still working, etc., so there was no one "else" to take care of me (or my brother) when I was sick. Not to mention the fact that if you have a child, it's YOUR child. It's not really fair to expect someone else to take care of your kid when it gets sick! If someone offers or doesn't mind, that's fine, but you're the parent.

Last summer you had surgery and you were an adult. I had surgery a few weeks ago and I, an adult, drove myself to and from the hospital. That's a lot different than a little kid being sick and needing someone to take care of them.

Edit: When you and I were kids fewer women worked, therefore, a lot of kids in our generation had either moms who didn't work or grandmas who didn't work, so they were available when kids got sick. Now, that's not really the norm, so employers have to assume that people will have kids and those kids will get sick and therefore their employees will need time off to take care of said sick kids.

[PwInCeSs]

My mom would have to do the same, or my dad. Someone had to take the day off to watch us, she wouldnt leave us alone when we were young, after a certain age of course she would.
Also keep in mind her daughter has not even reached her 2nd birthday yet!

[impure]

i don't think it's up to us to judge someone's parenting skills.
i mean, not only is it a matter of personal comfort level and completely circumstantial, but i mean, we (most of us) don't even have fucking kids! half of us don't even have pets because they involve too much responsibility.

i think the point is that she probably didn't need to catch hell for taking a day or few off for a legitimate reason. she took time off to care for her sick toddler, it's not like she called in drunk or something equally as juvenile.

[impure]

Originally Posted by PwInCeSs

My mom would have to do the same, or my dad. Someone had to take the day off to watch us, she wouldnt leave us alone when we were young, after a certain age of course she would.
Also keep in mind her daughter has not even reached her 2nd birthday yet!

hehe, i remember when i was 7 or 8 and my parents were just in the beginning stages of divorce, i was pretty stressed for an 8yr old. this one day my mom showed up at my school unannounced stating she needed to take me out of class for the remainder of the day for a doctor visit. she had to shut me up from telling the teacher i didn't think i had a doc visit scheduled.
it was all lies.
she took me shopping.

i don't know why your post reminded me but it did.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by impure

i don't think it's up to us to judge someone's parenting skills.
i mean, not only is it a matter of personal comfort level and completely circumstantial, but i mean, we (most of us) don't even have fucking kids! half of us don't even have pets because they involve too much responsibility.

i think the point is that she probably didn't need to catch hell for taking a day or few off for a legitimate reason. she took time off to care for her sick toddler, it's not like she called in drunk or something equally as juvenile.

my point exactly.

Yes, Ive used up my sick days. No, Im not expecting to or have asked to be paid for days I have missed over and above my sick days.

So fnk, if you had a barfing diareah feverish toddler and you use up all your sick days...what would YOU do?

and shitbeats go get stabbed or something?

[Carrie]

my parents left me and my brother home alone when were were under 10.

they had to work and they raised us so they knew we could take care of ourselves for 8 hours while they had to work.

Originally Posted by galaxie

So you're suggesting that my mom should have left me home alone when I was 9? That's just bad parenting.

Some people have the luxury of being able to pass their sick kids off to another family member. Unfortunately for my mom, she was also a single parent and she had to work - my dad worked, all my grandparents were still working, etc., so there was no one "else" to take care of me (or my brother) when I was sick. Not to mention the fact that if you have a child, it's YOUR child. It's not really fair to expect someone else to take care of your kid when it gets sick! If someone offers or doesn't mind, that's fine, but you're the parent.

Last summer you had surgery and you were an adult. I had surgery a few weeks ago and I, an adult, drove myself to and from the hospital. That's a lot different than a little kid being sick and needing someone to take care of them.

Edit: When you and I were kids fewer women worked, therefore, a lot of kids in our generation had either moms who didn't work or grandmas who didn't work, so they were available when kids got sick. Now, that's not really the norm, so employers have to assume that people will have kids and those kids will get sick and therefore their employees will need time off to take care of said sick kids.

my mother never passed me off. she found a way to make it work. feeding me and clothing me was her first priority. she didnt have the luxury of calling in kid sick. she works still in a male dominated industry where she cant.

sick days are not meant for you to take when your kid is sick. they are meant for when you are sick. also, most companies do not give an allotment of paid sick days in hopes that employees will use them up in a year. they are there if the employee needs them due to illness.

i feel that too many people abuse this priviledge. most companies dont offer paid sick days.

[Carrie]

Employment Standards Act

family responsibility leave. it's unpaid, but you shouldn't get slacked because you have a family..

[Erin]

I get paid sick days. I use them for mental health days. :)

[robyn]

wow babies are gross

[Carrie]

i love mental health days.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by Carrie

i love mental health days.

I find them necessary.

[Carrie]

I take mental health mornings if I cannot take the whole day.

since I'm not working until this afternoon... I guess I'm taking one now.

maybe I'll have a nap before I shower.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by Carrie

I take mental health mornings if I cannot take the whole day.

since I'm not working until this afternoon... I guess I'm taking one now.

maybe I'll have a nap before I shower.

I try and use them when it's noce and hot out. :)

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Carrie

my parents left me and my brother home alone when were were under 10.

they had to work and they raised us so they knew we could take care of ourselves for 8 hours while they had to work.

Regardless of how well raised children are, at that age they don't have the judgement skills to deal with potentially dangerous situations. That's why the law states that no child under age 12 is to be left home alone without supervision.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by Avana

my mother never passed me off. she found a way to make it work. feeding me and clothing me was her first priority. she didnt have the luxury of calling in kid sick. she works still in a male dominated industry where she cant.

sick days are not meant for you to take when your kid is sick. they are meant for when you are sick. also, most companies do not give an allotment of paid sick days in hopes that employees will use them up in a year. they are there if the employee needs them due to illness.

i feel that too many people abuse this priviledge. most companies dont offer paid sick days.

so what do you suggest i do? Leave my 2 year old in a pile of barf and shit and go off to work because I dont get paid sick leave to tend to her?

Meanwhile one of my co workers gets paid to leave work 2.5 hrs early to work at her other job which interfears with her preformance here?


ok.

Avana, you really are a fucking moron and are in some srs need of GET OVER YOURSELF.

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

Meanwhile one of my co workers gets paid to leave work 2.5 hrs early to work at her other job which interfears with her preformance here?

haha - the only person here who needs to get over themselves is you.

welcome to the real world. i know that this is all new to you, and you are still learning the ropes but i will clear up a few details to make the discovery a bit easier.

first off, no employer needs to care that you have a kid. if they have already provided you with the legal pre-requisite, then they have done their due diligence. further to that, if you are doing over and above what is required of you and they are being thankless about it, then stop doing it.

you work for them, not the other way around. if you want to ensure that you can take sick days for your kid whenever you want, work for a union and be another number. if you want to be extraordinary and excel and be rewarded, take your lumps and serve your time.

ps - throwing in another factor about how your job is entirely against you doesnt help gain sympathy.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

^you cant see past your nose.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

ps:i think thier thread turned into another one of "omg avana is so fucking all knowing and awesome ZOMG!!!not to mention her grammatical skills are aces and she also has a much firmer grasp on the english language and corporate canada then any of us dirty insignificant poorly written ravers."

go stroke your ego somewhere else, like your therapists office?

[Akeel]

man what a great thread :)

continue.

[impure]

Originally Posted by Avana

haha - the only person here who needs to get over themselves is you.

welcome to the real world. i know that this is all new to you, and you are still learning the ropes but i will clear up a few details to make the discovery a bit easier.

first off, no employer needs to care that you have a kid. if they have already provided you with the legal pre-requisite, then they have done their due diligence. further to that, if you are doing over and above what is required of you and they are being thankless about it, then stop doing it.

you work for them, not the other way around. if you want to ensure that you can take sick days for your kid whenever you want, work for a union and be another number. if you want to be extraordinary and excel and be rewarded, take your lumps and serve your time.

ps - throwing in another factor about how your job is entirely against you doesnt help gain sympathy.

you sound like you actually know what it's like to be in her situation.

you don't.

i'm pretty sure you've figured out that you should have kept your comments to yourself a while back but you just can't seem to accept that and move on because you might have a little bit to much pride in you.
all said avana, your ideas sound good to you in theory, but until you're there and live that life, maybe don't be so harsh judging others who are.

jus' sayin'...:)

meow don't freak out on me.
alright, meow?

Originally Posted by impure

you sound like you actually know what it's like to be in her situation.

you don't.

i'm pretty sure you've figured out that you should have kept your comments to yourself a while back but you just can't seem to accept that and move on because you might have a little bit to much pride in you.
all said avana, your ideas sound good to you in theory, but until you're there and live that life, maybe don't be so harsh judging others who are.

jus' sayin'...:)

meow don't freak out on me.
alright, meow?

you are naive to think that i dont know.

my mother is sick. i more than know. that said, i use my vacation time. i make arrangements and i ensure my employer is covered. i am not self-righteous nor have i put myself on any pedestal.

i have worked with companies that have a zero absence policy - it doesnt matter the emergency or illness. i have also worked with companies that offer over 80 hours of sick time per year. people take that time like it is vacation.

[impure]

Originally Posted by Avana

you are naive to think that i dont know.

my mother is sick. i more than know. that said, i use my vacation time. i make arrangements and i ensure my employer is covered. i am not self-righteous nor have i put myself on any pedestal.

i have worked with companies that have a zero absence policy - it doesnt matter the emergency or illness. i have also worked with companies that offer over 80 hours of sick time per year. people take that time like it is vacation.

ok, maybe you don't understand how helping care for a sick parent and looking after your own child is different, and i really don't care to argue.
if and when you have kids, you'll get it.

Originally Posted by impure

ok, maybe you don't understand how helping care for a sick parent and looking after your own child is different, and i really don't care to argue.
if and when you have kids, you'll get it.

thank you for proving my point. you have belittled my personal issue with the most important person in my life because it clearly isnt as important as a parent with a child.

why should someone with kids have any more rights than a person without?

[mojo]

I hope your daughter is feeling better.