hi remember that time i was a parent

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by impure

i don't think it's up to us to judge someone's parenting skills.
i mean, not only is it a matter of personal comfort level and completely circumstantial, but i mean, we (most of us) don't even have fucking kids! half of us don't even have pets because they involve too much responsibility.

i think the point is that she probably didn't need to catch hell for taking a day or few off for a legitimate reason. she took time off to care for her sick toddler, it's not like she called in drunk or something equally as juvenile.

exactly! and a good company would reconize that a legit. reason. But ofcourse there aren't that many who "care" this day in age, and thats kinda sad :(.

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

so what do you suggest i do? Leave my 2 year old in a pile of barf and shit and go off to work because I dont get paid sick leave to tend to her?

Meanwhile one of my co workers gets paid to leave work 2.5 hrs early to work at her other job which interfears with her preformance here?


ok.

Avana, you really are a fucking moron and are in some srs need of GET OVER YOURSELF.

or admit to sticking foot in mouth.

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by Avana

you work for them, not the other way around. if you want to ensure that you can take sick days for your kid whenever you want, work for a union and be another number. if you want to be extraordinary and excel and be rewarded, take your lumps and serve your time.

you do have a point here about choice that i want i want to bring attn. to.

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Employers these days need to open their eyes and realize that people have other things going on in their lives. Work is not the be all and end all. Family members get sick, people get in car accidents, flights get canceled and you can't make it home in time for work, etc. Life has a lot of unforseeable bumps in the road - employers need to be realistic.

It sounds to me that Val's employer relies on her because she is her right-hand. I think the real problem here is that her boss depends on her TOO much and can't properly function without her. That's why it's a big deal for her to miss a day (regardless of reason) yet it's OK for other people in her office to leave early, miss days, etc.

Keep in mind here that I've run several multi-million dollar businesses and had to run short countless times in the past. Come down on your staff for missing work for legitimate reasons and good people walk out your door. Be understanding, realistic and supportive and they will work 100x harder for you. Give a little, get a lot!

You say everything i want to say, much nicer and prettyer. lol.

I feel this is a sign of a good employer. understanding and careing. not that they HAVE to, WANT to, but because the can, and DO.:love:

[impure]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Not to stir up more trouble, but

you know when you have to tell someone something and you dread doing it because you know the reaction you'll get will be anything but good?
what do you usualy say before you tell them the bad news?

"don't be mad......"

i think saying "not to stir up more trouble, BUT" is on the same level

[galaxie]

^ LOL yeah, I guess
I just wanted to know why Avana was still arguing that Val was in the wrong if she knows the law. I think she was just assuming that this is a trend and that Val had been missing an excessive amount of work because of it.

[Courtney]

thats lame..family first..always

[Courtney]

by the way why is everyone such a fucking bitch?

[impure]

Originally Posted by Courtney

by the way why is everyone except amelia such a fucking bitch?

fixed.

[impure]

Originally Posted by galaxie

^ LOL yeah, I guess
I just wanted to know why Avana was still arguing that Val was in the wrong if she knows the law. I think she was just assuming that this is a trend and that Val had been missing an excessive amount of work because of it.

Originally Posted by impure

and i don't really feel like explaining my ideas to a group where only 1/2 of them actually try to understand others concepts and the other half just wants to pick a fight.

pretty much.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by Courtney

by the way why is everyone such a fucking bitch?

because avana said so.

duh.

[mojo]

YouTube - Flight of the Conchords Ep 3 Think About it

lets just all relax and have a laugh, ya.

[fritz]

^six pages of arguing and name calling without a constructive solution to your problem beyond "its the law, i can do what i want"

being right is not always productive

[Ragga_Wh0re]

yeah I pretty much wasnt looking for advice from fnk, just a forum to vent in...cuz thats what the forum said you could do but I guess I was wrong according to The Avana.

my bad.

[Phrenetic]

lol Avana

[LLaaUUrrYYn]

I only read half this thread and decided I can't read anymore battle of the biggest bitch.

I think most employers understand that family is first no matter what. If you are as good as you say you are - if you are really such an asset to the employer then they will be flexible. Just remember that there are alot of childless people out there that are just as capable of filling your position. I doubt anyone would make a big deal over 1 or 2 days missed..

Avana - Once you have a child, it is fully YOUR responsibility to care for your child when sick. Sending your kid to someone else so that you can put a new pair of shoes on their feet is garbage. Why would anyone want your sick child in their house? I think that is irresponsible of a parent.. If you ever decide to have kids, I doubt you would still have the same opinions.

SOLUTION : FIND AN EMPLOYER THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND UNDERSTANDING - DONT TAKE DAYS OFF FOR MINOR THINGS. SHOW THEM HOW DEDICATED AND "GREAT" YOU ARE. SMILE MORE. LIFE SUCKS WHEN YOUR ALWAYS IN A BITCHY MOOD =)

In a perfect world we could all be stay at home parents with endless income =)

[Ragga_Wh0re]

^anytime ive missed work my kid has been a)barfing b)had an extreme temperature as a result daycare would not take her c)just released from the hospital due to convlusions brought on by extreme temperature.

and she knows that lol. Basically,my boss was taking her own shit out on me. It had nothing to do with me,i was just the best target at the time.

[laska]

For the first time in like, ever, I'm glad I'm unemployed