RCMP on drug patrol @ Dooms Night article (The Vancouver Sun)

[prozac]

"back when raves were impromptu rebellious gatherings of electronica-obsessed hipsters"

ha ha ha. that made me smile.

He is a bit of a dickhead though. And the writer is an idiot.

[Diamonite]

LOL. Great story. Though they should have a better ticket pricing source.....and learn that most "e" is not hallucinogenic....and cat tranq does sound cooler than Ketamine..=P I don't know. If they really want to help e users by education.....then supply us with on-site testing kits and 5-htp and orange juice for the mornings after. Sheesh.

P.S. Why would we listen to Rintoul anyways? The testing kits TEST FOR CHEMICALS. What more do you need? Idiots.

[FireWire]

^^ Supplying testing kits, 5-htp, and orange juice would just promote drug use than stop it...

I think it's better for the users to find out on their own what the harms of these drugs are... that is of course if they're smart - I noticed there are so many people who are clueless about the drugs they take and think that there are no side effects... oh well, this is just a sure way to eliminate all the idiots from society. :p

And yeah, I don't really agree how in the article they called ecstasy a hallucinogenic... it's more of a euphoric stimulant than anything else. They need to get their terms correct if they are gonna be educating people like that.

[Diamonite]

Originally Posted by FireWire

^^ Supplying testing kits, 5-htp, and orange juice would just promote drug use than stop it...

It was meant as sarcasm. They do take such a horrible approach to all this shit. Appearance to others....rather than actually caring.

[FireWire]

Didn't catch the joke at first, lol.

DanceSafe.org used to have stands at raves with testing kits for pills - and apparently lots of people said that those were very useful. Oh I bet. I wonder why they stopped doing that.

[dj4mula]

well the rave scene is dying. What Vancouver, or North America in general is a radio station that plays electronica music on a conistant basis.

[thechix0r]

Good article, they aren't really pointing fingers it seems, they are just trying to get some insight...

Good read!

[mapleleaf4ever]

Interesting.

[Vitamin-X]

It's all about taking anti oxidants when you pop.
ie: vitamins c and e or alpha lipoic acid.
You will feel a million times better the next day.

[Cool-Water]

the average person or none raver opinion of raves hmm

[Ms.Tarantula]

I like the fact that the article is not completely biased, and that they include the fact that some people do go sober...

But I dont think the scene is dying. It's just changing. The genres (dnb, house, trance etc) are being played in nightclubs more and more now.

Raves are where all the half dressed underaged kids go and it makes raves seem more dangerous and the people in them seem under-educated about the drugs they are taking. If those cops were to do the same thing in nightclubs, they'd find the older, raved-out club goers that still enjoy the scene and the music but have the knowledge and experience about the drug aspct. Alot more of them sober, or just drunk/ smoking weed.

[Diamonite]

The scene is dying....I hear that allll the time....I think it's just constantly changing....and people want it to stay the same....and when they see what they expected gone....we get the scene is dying thing...just my 2cents.

[liquidblue]

sure the article is written at a grade 5 reading level, but at least its more objective than most articles. Not bad, Its not like what they say is false. A little slanted, sure, but hey its the media, and media = govt.

[bittner]

**testing kits are NOT that much money**



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[Capt.AA]

I'm not sure what the news part about this was..

[Toxxin Ephekt]

" Tonight, it's dark except for the flashing lasers and spotlights blinking to erratic drum and bass rhythms. "


Boh?

[MissBehavior]

Originally Posted by FireWire

DanceSafe.org used to have stands at raves with testing kits for pills - and apparently lots of people said that those were very useful. Oh I bet. I wonder why they stopped doing that.

Couldn't tell whether this was sarcastic or not, so here's a response anyways.

The reason DS doesn't test pills at parties here anymore is because the cops started cracking down on DS at parties (arresting people, or at the very least having them ejected from parties). They're cops. They don't want us to know about harm reduction.

To be honest, (and I'm prolly not the best source for this, considering how few parties I go to these days) the last party that I saw a Dance Safe booth at was at Loungex's House of X in like, 2001.

I don't even think there IS a branch of DS in Vancouver anymore.

[project.one]

Good read.

Though, it still makes me sad about todays youth!

[A-BOMB]

I bet that cop is on this site.

[Kenny]

Originally Posted by A-BOMB

I bet that cop is on this site.

Probably

[automatic]

"What are you using?" Rintoul shouts, barely audible over the pulsing music of the Dooms Night rave held recently at Vancouver's Pacific Coliseum.
Although Caitlyn denies using drugs, Rintoul finds a crumpled ball of plastic wrap in her purse, concealing three small pills. Inside? Ecstasy, or "e," a drug that police consider the most sought-after hallucinogenic party drug on the street.
"This is really, really dangerous, you know that?" Rintoul says. "Three tablets. This is possession with the purpose of trafficking. It's a serious offence

so umm, he goes up to 16 year old girls and gets them to open their purses.....don't you need a warrant to search someone? isn't this illegal? i don't think "glazed eyes' is admissible as 'probably cause".... you notice he doesn't charge them because he probably knows that any competent defence lawyer will get any charges thrown out as illegal search and seizure.

[Technix]

Originally Posted by A-BOMB

I bet that cop is on this site.

It's not like a RAVE is hard to find these days...

[rustybob]

I think it sucks that there's not pill testing booths at raves. They had one at Shambhala, and I think that was an awesome idea. E is illegal, no doubt, but for those that choose to do it, we should at least have the option of knowing what the hell it is we're taking.

Also, I don't think there's any judge in Canada that would consider three pills of ecstacy trafficking, especially one that came from an illegal search.

[Technix]

Originally Posted by rustybob

I think it sucks that there's not pill testing booths at raves. They had one at Shambhala, and I think that was an awesome idea. E is illegal, no doubt, but for those that choose to do it, we should at least have the option of knowing what the hell it is we're taking.

Also, I don't think there's any judge in Canada that would consider three pills of ecstacy trafficking, especially one that came from an illegal search.

People would think twice about taking drugs in if the police were the ones searching people...it will come to that someday I'm sure...with the K9 unit close by to assist.

Easy tickets for possession.

Police are blitzing the streets, why not all night events too?

[Arrrika]

Originally Posted by Technix

People would think twice about taking drugs in if the police were the ones searching people...it will come to that someday I'm sure...with the K9 unit close by to assist.

I've always wondered why they dont have drug dogs present because people put drugs in places that arent visible.