McCain or Obama

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Alex

Are you confident the majority of Americans knew or understood the majority of his platform before voting for him?

Do the majority of Americans ever understand/care about a potential president's platform?

Like Dubya got elected because he had a brilliant economic plan, a tactically sound military plan, etc?..

Nope. He got elected because he seemed like one of the boys, a good ol' straight shooter, and because he had money and some evil geniuses working behind the scenes to muckrake (whatever happened to John McCain's illegitimate black baby, anyways?).

So Obama got elected because of his aura of greatness and his profound rhetoric. Dubya got elected because he was someone the average joe could relate to. Both capitalized on an timely upsurge from their respective bases, and both had millions and millions backing them. But by almost anyone's standards, Obama ran a clean campaign while Dubya did his usual dirty work (whatever happened to the Swiff Boat Veterans for truth, anyways?)

Guess who I'd side with if we're playing the "who was more rightly chosen" game?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Alex

If the unhealthy uneducated and unfit were barred from pro-creation and pro-creation was considered a privilege earned through hard work and effort, desire amongst the successful would increase.

What is reality? Just because an idea is not plausible in our current society doesn't necessarily mean it is out of the realm of possibilities.

As was previously established by you, often times you will argue a point and have no idea of the facts, or even if it makes sense.

I believe this might just be one of those times.

[b0ld]

I like it how people who are not from the united states automatically assume that they knew what the platforms were between mccain and obama only based on presidential debates on tv.

There's more to the story on what these candidates represented. More then even myself would even know.

oh b0ld.

quick john this thread needs a face palm.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by b0ld

There's more to the story on what these candidates represented. More then even myself would even know.

hahahahah

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Avana

oh b0ld.

quick john this thread needs a face palm.

ha, no. Going by the reply stats and skimming over the 'content' from the usual cast of characters in this thread the whole thing just gets a massive:

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

I believe this might just be one of those times.

The "what is reality?" bit is a fairly good sign.

[ebbomega]

^ Well that depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.

[Grapes]

^ THAT in turn depends on your definition of what "what" is. ("is")

[cubed]

WHOA, JUST STOP!!!

THE DAVES ARE BLOWING MY MIND RIGHT NOW!!!i

[NinjaBoy]

Are we talking about the matrix now? Because that scene where Keanu was like flipping around shooting guards in some government lobby was fucking cool.

[ebbomega]

^ Yes. Yes we are.

[Erin]

I thought this was supposed to be a nice thread that we could be proud of. What the hell happened with that??

[ebbomega]

How in God's name did you expect a thread with two politicians in the title to be anywhere near "nice"?

Two guaranteed debates to get people riled up: Religion & Politics.

[NinjaBoy]

So if we're in the Matrix, then the fact that Alex never seems to have a source for his moronic claims makes sense, because in reality, those sources are a lie anyway!

However, not letting poor people breed would mean less electricity for our robot overlords, so depending on your outlook/metal to organic ratio this could be a good thing or a bad thing.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

How in God's name did you expect a thread with two politicians in the title to be anywhere near "nice"?

Two guaranteed debates to get people riled up: Religion & Politics.

I was referring to:

Originally Posted by Grapes

Did you guys want to start a different thread for that admittedly relevant issue? We have history being made over here.

Barack Obama greets his adoring supporters in Chicago | World news | guardian.co.uk

Photos: US election night victory celebrations around the world | World news | guardian.co.uk

Originally Posted by Grapes

All I wanted was for one evening/thread to be proud of, and happy for, our neighbors to the south.

I'm not confused about the stark reality of the situation. But it still means something, dammit.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Erin

I thought this was supposed to be a nice thread that we could be proud of. What the hell happened with that??

how is banning gay couples right to marry 'nice' exactly?

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by b0ld

I like it how people who are not from the united states automatically assume that they knew what the platforms were between mccain and obama only based on presidential debates on tv.

There's more to the story on what these candidates represented. More then even myself would even know.

yeah because clearly none of us can read.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

how is banning gay couples right to marry 'nice' exactly?

Please see my 2nd post on this page.

[tiedye]

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by tiedye

...nice.

here,have some oc:

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Erin

Please see my 2nd post on this page.

My idea of a "nice" thread regarding US politics was probably not realistic.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by Grapes

My idea of a "nice" thread regarding US politics was probably not realistic.

That was kinda the sarcasm behind my post.

[Grapes]

Oh. :oh:

[Courtney]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Sure, lets see some :)

I expect at least half a dozen. And that you actually state your case.

eurocentrism,colonization and resistance, michael anthony hart
don't we count as people? mildred kerr debbie frost diane bignell
our stories: lynn women and the economy
unted nations platform for action committee (unpac)
social welfare in canada-understanding income security- steven hick

dont really feel like citing actual shit cuz i have papers to write but you get my point...
canada discriminaton is existent and prevalent man