Gay marriages

[Rhianna]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

It's not being unfaithful if it's in faith with my beliefs. You are seriously a fucking doorknob for brains. *thumbs up

I'm not trying to be a bitch here, I am just asking, will it be ok for your husband to pound other women?

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Rhianna

A comment I actually agree w/ you on!

But I also know that being that way doesn't make me any better than other girls.

It makes you more intuned. It's definately a MOST important thing to have learned growing up. I feel bad for girls that didn't have a mom that really stressed the importance of treating your body like a sanctuary that guys are going to be totally all after you for:)

[galaxie]

^ But it's OK for your bf to have sex with any girl who is willing because their mothers didn't teach them that?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY crazy.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by galaxie

*pounds head on desk*

Why is it that you don't realize that you are STUPIDER than the girls who will get with your bf because you put up with it? Why do you don't realize that when you are married he will be USING you to cook, clean, and do all the wifey things while he has his way with younger, hotter girls?! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! ?

The girls have their way with me too. Younger and hotter? No good looking bodies could possibly make me jealous. It's just looks, they are all different, but I know I have the hottest body ever, and maybe when I'm a mom I'll feel different, but for now it's so much fun. It's what's in their heads that counts. If I'm threatened by a girl Alon wouldn't do anything. He cares about me more than the world's fortune....and he loves money like no one else I've ever met. Girls always hit on US.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by galaxie

^ But it's OK for your bf to have sex with any girl who is willing because their mothers didn't teach them that?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY crazy.

One of the worlds wonders is the amount of horny girls out there that actually just want to get fucked and drive around in cars.

*who knEW? g*night.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

He cares about me more than the world's fortune....and he loves money like no one else I've ever met. Girls always hit on US.

Hun, if he REALLY cared about you, if he REALLY loved you, he wouldn't WANT to be with anyone else in any way, shape or form.

When we are out together, girls hit on my guy ALL the time, and guys hit on me ALL the time, too. But my guy LOVES me, and I LOVE him, and so we tell them to hit the road. And that's what LOVE is - not being able to even imagine yourself being with anyone other than the person you love. And not because you would feel guilty, or because it's 'wrong', or for any reason other than the person you're with is everything you've ever wanted so you don't need to be with anyone else.

One day, I hope you understand this, because you're missing out otherwise.

[wum]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

The girls have their way with me too. Younger and hotter? No good looking bodies could possibly make me jealous.

*ahem* you still haven't added to the pictures thread :310:

[acidic_liquid]

I'm watching Troy just for Brad Pitt's ass shots.

Now THAT'S gay :)

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Hun, if he REALLY cared about you, if he REALLY loved you, he wouldn't WANT to be with anyone else in any way, shape or form.

When we are out together, girls hit on my guy ALL the time, and guys hit on me ALL the time, too. But my guy LOVES me, and I LOVE him, and so we tell them to hit the road. And that's what LOVE is - not being able to even imagine yourself being with anyone other than the person you love. And not because you would feel guilty, or because it's 'wrong', or for any reason other than the person you're with is everything you've ever wanted so you don't need to be with anyone else.

One day, I hope you understand this, because you're missing out otherwise.

That's your thoughts on my relationship. A relationship that you will never understand to be the most gratifying, loving and trusting partnership. Not only do we love each other SOOO much, but we can also have fun laughing together about the world that surrounds us, the single life, a life that was also fun and we have the best of both.

[Rhianna]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

A relationship that you will never understand to be the most gratifying.

It's the most gratifying to you yes. But a lot of other people don't get off on that. It doesn't mean that they aren't trusting of eachother.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

That's your thoughts on my relationship. A relationship that you will never understand to be the most gratifying, loving and trusting partnership. Not only do we love each other SOOO much, but we can also have fun laughing together about the world that surrounds us, the single life, a life that was also fun and we have the best of both.

*sigh*
You know, Rhianna and I are only TRYING to give you some insight from a woman's view. Apparently, you are suuuuuuuuch a tomboy that you're ignoring the woman inside of you. No self-respecting woman would have her guy running about with other women, it's disrespectful. Even if I WERE cool with it, there's no way in hell my guy would EVER do that. Why? Because he wouldn't WANT or NEED to, he respects me way too much. IMO, that's how it SHOULD be.

My thoughts on the things people do can be answered by one simple question:
"Could I tell my mom/dad about this?"
If the answer is no, you probably shouldn't be doing it. And I can guarantee that if you told your mom or dad that you allow your boyfriend to cheat on you, they'd want to kill him (at least your dad would!) and they'd want you to go to some sort of therapy.

You are really, really co-dependent, and you can't help it. It's obvious that you have been raised and treated like you need to please everyone, but this is NOT true. You need to make YOURSELF happy, and I'm sure that if you dig deep down inside of yourself you KNOW that what you allow your bf to do is not right, and that you deserve better. One day, hopefully sooner than later for your sake, you will come to this realization. I just hope that it's before you marry this guy, because I'd hate to see you be 'stuck' since you're so adamant that you will never get a divorce.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by acidic_liquid

I'm watching Troy just for Brad Pitt's ass shots.

Now THAT'S gay :)

on MUTE?!

[acidic_liquid]

No other people were watching it :( I just sat back and played on the comp til the special scenes haha.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Rhianna

It's the most gratifying to you yes. But a lot of other people don't get off on that. It doesn't mean that they aren't trusting of eachother.

It also doesn't mean that he doesn't love me.

[Rhianna]

^And I never said he didn't.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by galaxie

*sigh*
You know, Rhianna and I are only TRYING to give you some insight from a woman's view. Apparently, you are suuuuuuuuch a tomboy that you're ignoring the woman inside of you. No self-respecting woman would have her guy running about with other women, it's disrespectful. Even if I WERE cool with it, there's no way in hell my guy would EVER do that. Why? Because he wouldn't WANT or NEED to, he respects me way too much. IMO, that's how it SHOULD be.

My thoughts on the things people do can be answered by one simple question:
"Could I tell my mom/dad about this?"
If the answer is no, you probably shouldn't be doing it. And I can guarantee that if you told your mom or dad that you allow your boyfriend to cheat on you, they'd want to kill him (at least your dad would!) and they'd want you to go to some sort of therapy.

I tell my mom, and she thinks that it's just something that I would do. It's part of my personality. I am a self confident free spirit that knows that I if I wanted to, which I DEFINATELY DON'T, my man would do anything for me. Just to clear up something that you dreamed or something, he doesn't do this stuff without me, but if he did, I wouldn't care either.

YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING SHUT UP YOU PSYCHO HALUCENATORY FREAK? :) you need to hear that, or else you'll keep making stupid shit up, you're crazy.

Originally Posted by Galaxie

"You are really, really co-dependent, and you can't help it?" "It's obvious that you have been raised and treated like you need to please everyone, but this is NOT true?""You need to make YOURSELF happy, and I'm sure that if you dig deep down inside of yourself you KNOW that what you allow your bf to do is not right, and that you deserve better." One day, hopefully sooner than later for your sake, you will come to this realization. I just hope that it's before you marry this guy, because I'd hate to see you be 'stuck' since you're so adamant that you will never get a divorce.

wtf?....you don't even know who I am, and you think you know me. You are so screwed in the head. Why do you waste your time writing bullshit that you've made up in your little pea-brained head about my relationship. You know how stupid you sound? Calling me "really, really codependant", "raised and treated like you need to please everyone"......I grew up with no one that needed to be pleased. I could do whatever the fuck I wanted. How I grew up has nothing to do with it.

You're rhetoric has absolutely nothing that I found even close to who I am. So stop trying to know me and just focus on one thing. You got off track from the gay marriage conversation, now your off track of the divorce conversation, not to mention when you called me a bible follower....what? *laugh Just SHUT YOUR ANNOYING BRAINS UP ABOUT YOUR FUCKING IMAGINARY GAY HATING, BIBLE THUMPING, DOORMAT, CODEPENDANT INTERNET ALLY.

With all the fictional stories you make up, you should maybe write a story book about screwed up people, for theraputical purposes. Hopefully no one else will have to waste their time writing back to you in order to protect their name from rhetorical bullshit that you've invented to sound cool or something.....I dunno.....you're just weird.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Rhianna

^And I never said he didn't.

no, you didn't, that crazy bitch Natalie did:D

PfHAhahah~

[miss.myra]

Umm, if you're really so confident, then why would he need to go anywhere else for lovin'? If you're so confident, wouldn't you feel that everything you have to offer sexually is so f'in good that he wouldn't need to shop around? I dunno, to me that makes sense.

[lou_belle]

The lovin' that I give him is soooo much more love and less fuck. Like, I don't, or shouldn't really to get into it, but we make an awesome bed. The other girls are just icing on top of an already rich chocolate cake. There's so many flavors, when I go to Mario's Gelati......they all look good, but I still get lichi every time;P

[Rhianna]

^How would he feel about you sleeping w/ other boys?

[lou_belle]

I've never wanted to, so I don't know what he would really think.

[The_acidhouse]

Newsflash:
This is a 'rave' board.
Homos more or less invented 'rave'.
Go invent your own subcultures and then create your on boards to whine on.

That is all.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ~*goddessa*~

^hello hi!*meant for markpaul*

so like turns out all the countries in the world have been ruled by one or more different countries since the dawn of time. So turns out this so called "melting pot" and "grey race" has been happening since the dawn of time.
Look at Italy,look at the phillipines,look at France,look here look there look everywhere. This so called "melting pot" is not only indigenous to canada eh!

so like yah and stuff...or something.

oh and markpaul,what makes you think that you are not a part of this "grey race" ? hmmmm?

The dawn of time? No. So long ago that it's goes over almost everybody's head? You can believe it.

It's beyond countries. At one point, the work of your father, his father before him, and his father before him tilled the land In the land you may have called your country. Your country was indegenous to your culture which was naturally determined by your ethnicity. This gave rise to a tremendous diversity of cusine, mythology, theology, music and cultural traits de facto. Maybe at this point a country was indigenous or authentic in it's means of expression.

However, since irregulated immigration, that is simply not the case. Granted, this may have happened further back then 30,000 some years ago, but not the dawn of the human race.

Most people these days aren't even much aware of pre-industrial evolution area, I'm not surprised this may not have crossed your mind. People think technology has set us free, but now we're so poor we can't even pay attention!

Otherwise, how would you explain the rise of all the different racial archetypes? Are you implying creationism? Regardless of your explaination, there was a natural semblance of life as an equilibrium with a family like unit, be it tribes or a man and woman cohabiting. Even if you could explain this, you fail to know of some easily aquirable history that will further contradict your claim. What do you know of Zion, or Babylon?

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Psycho_Laughs

what few people realise is that adultery according to the bible is any sex outside of marriage.
in the eyes of God, marriage is when two people become one flesh, aka sex. if you have sex with more than one partner that is adultery.
the only insidents in which divorce is allowed are due to sexual imorality.
widows are excused as well (actually encouraged to get married as soon as grieving is done).
i think she has one of those "window shopping" attitudes towards the bible (as in she'll pick what she likes and ignore what she doesn't).

You aren't the only fish that has bitten that line. Take a look into the latin meaning of adultery, now take a look in the connotation of the word and mongrelization. Notice how often they appear interchangably?

What does that tell you?

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

You say that as though a gay couple's bond can never be as good as a straight couple's bond.

Granted, gay couples don't create life like straight couples do, but as I said before, don't you think the planet could do for a slowdown on the population growth anyways?

Not for me, I'm sure the gays would feel the same with the tabes turned. Yes I think the planet could go for a slowdown of population, but that isn't the problem, nor do I think gays should pick up the tab for a society without a concious to balance it's numbers. What's far more pertinent is how we for instance are bred to consume 20X the amount on average per capita of some third world countries out there. Or how advances in technology have further degenerated humanity from a natural holistic means of reproduction and family rearing.

Originally Posted by Rytalin

Religions are trampling all over the gay community, holding them back from accessing various legal and financial benefits of being legally married.

And if marriage is so sacred, then why is there divorce?

Marriage just being between a man and woman doesn't make the union sacred, oh no. These days people are still married more often for the wrong reasons, not to keep vows and celebrate life, that's why too many end in divorce. Also read what I wrote, I think religions have some work to do aswell, and should tolerate sexual orientation by giving gay couples the same legal rights.

Though back to marriage, marriage I would say is sacred when yes it is a man and woman becoming one in flesh and creating the life of a child from that love, but there has to be mutual respect. Further, mutual responsibility, communication, and compassion. Without these, the bond is bound not to be eternal, and therefore, not sacred.

Originally Posted by Rytalin

It was only a religious issue first because some dude wrote down his opinion on homosexuality back in the day, and his writing was later seen fit to be added to a holy book. Just cos the book says it, doesn't mean make it direct from god. You know this.

Yes and no. You fail to mention that there was a common consensus left among the majority of the populace that had to believe these things in order to make them law. It's called democracy. Besides, I would say it's holy since the end result of the union of man and woman is in creating a life. Creation I would say is direct from god.

Originally Posted by Rytalin

I go in circle.

'Til death do you part'
That's part of the vow right?
the sacred holy vow of marriage?

I think, with the advent of divorce, this vow became not so sacred and holy. You no longer are bonding with this person for the rest of your life. You can always cop out if the going gets tough, with the added bonus of getting half their assets.

How's that for sacred and holy?

Just because there are people that fuck up marriage, doesn't mean people that keep it divine and recognize it for it's long determined definition should be left holding the bag for this lack of sanctity. How's that for generalizing and forcing lifestyle? These people deserve to have a word to call their own, and have done so. Homosexuals should do the same if they truly want equality.

Originally Posted by Rytalin

I guess what I'm trying to say is if gay marriages are not allowed, then neither should divorce.

No homosexuals marriages should be allowed by context of the same legal status and rights as heterosexual marriages, just use a different name as a respect of tolerance. Otherwise, it's hypocracy by democracy.