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Old May 01, 06
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Why would you mention Sasha ? Not that I like him but no one in Van would ever come close to Sasha

Pro DJ's all pay taxes

playing at some stage at apex doesnt make you a pro dj, hence you dont need to pay taxes since you dont even make that much
HAHA oh man some of the replies to your posts are priceless -- love the imaginary friends bit, Dabbler haha :) actually, it's kinda funny, that name, cuz my mate Dylan (the Phat Conductor) used to have big share in an art group by that name too.. anyway...
To reply, I mentioned Sasha because it was relevant, because he makes huge cash as a DJ (a producer who DJs and tours etc), and if he didn't declare huge performance earnings on his taxes he'd be in jail. period. :)
Now, there's a difference between "pro" and "superstar headliner club /festival circuit" as well.

Pro wedding DJs are people who do weddings on weekends, have a business license, write off equipment etc as expenses, and pay taxes on income. They don't have to be rich or glamerous. Ditto for commercial club djs, or just (imho) smart "mixologist" artistic djs.
I used to DJ as my #1 source of income -- but went to school again, got kind of side tracked, and have been focussing on other rewarding stuff for awhile. I'm not playing a lot of DJ gigs these days -- however -- I still write off music purchases, gear purchases, computer upgrades -- as part of my music business, a business that includes CD sales, some touring, and a radio show I do weekly.
I don't have to be earning 6 figures or even touring internationally to get a business license -- that's in your head. :) To be considered a "professional" does not mean you can't have other income or even a day job -- just that you do it professionally, in one way or other.
So basically, I refute your point of view, as ignorant and not very well thought out. :)
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oh and also, the thought that Dave Armstrong does not get any gigs -- even if you look at his backyard (Canada), in cases where international DJs don't get a lot of respect in their home countries -- I have friends that have just booked him on the East Coast, where he is very popular and they can vouch that the statement "he gets 0 gigs" is complete BS! :)
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It is a choice you make, just like everything else in life.

You choose who you wish to work for, and you choose what the value of services are worth.

I know lots of djs that get paid, I know lots of djs that don't. I've never heard either bitch or complain about their situation. Maybe it is not so much that all djs aren't being paid but that you are one of the ones that aren't???

Besides your logic is slightly flawed. Hookers charge for sex, but there are plenty that give it away for free...and many of both that would call it a talent or a service. So should we start a Sex Union???

I think the whole point behind being a 'contract' employee is that you are free to set your own rates. So set yours as you wish and let others set theirs as they choose...
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Besides your logic is slightly flawed. Hookers charge for sex, but there are plenty that give it away for free...
boy oh boy this is great! can i get a contact. PLEASE PPPPPPPPPPLEASE!!!
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.. but jess, what we don't have, is regular "nice girls" hanging around the downtown east side trying to undercut the pro "career" hookers by blowing johns for free.

so, it's not quite the same. :)
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Old May 02, 06
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This gets better and better, all this talk about DJ's and Hookers makes me want to go to a party
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evidently i need to get myself a pimp!
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Old May 02, 06
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When did Armstrong release that track ?? can you tell me ???


He might be a good producer but hardly a Pro DJ since he gets almost no gigs


Look at the top of the page this is about DJ's
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...0:rjaxlfaeacqy
2004. make your move.
he also produced a cover of hall & oates' out of time, which was promptly sample-jacked by junior jack to make stupiddisco.

here's a link to his records that are on juno

if you're being sarcastic you're not looking that funny, just stupid.
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^Actually, Junior Jack sample-jacked him on "Make Your Move" for "Stupid Disco".

He then got jacked again for the Hall & Oates "Out of Time", can't remember the producer tandem that got on that one though.
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Old May 03, 06
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^^ my bad. It was uniting nations that jacked out of time.

and people wonder why dave doesn't tour so much anymore.
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Old May 03, 06
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Havent heard anything from Tayfoon in a while... I hope he says something soon, I think this threads got 30 page potential.
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Old May 03, 06
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Havent heard anything from Tayfoon in a while... I hope he says something soon, I think this threads got 30 page potential.

yeah he kinda got skurred off when he was called out. numerous times.
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Old May 03, 06
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Wow.. Timur really hung himself out to dry with the Dave Armstrong comment!


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Just a thought. If it's for the love, then why bitch about money?
If a person wants to sell themself short that's fine, except the fact is.. by doing that you are degrading what a DJ is worth in your area.. lowering standards and hurting the DJ community.

A good question to ask is, if you do it for the love.. is that just love for yourself and your own enjoyment and position in the big picture of things?
Or is "doing it for the love" better defined as doing it not only for your own enjoyment but also love for your fellow djs and the dj community/culture itself and wanting djs to be appreciated, respected, and treated well.. not taken advantage of.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most promoters in this city have the main objective of getting people to play for as cheap as they can get them to do it. Promoters take advantage GREATLY of the fact that we all love what we do and that most people just want to play.

One thing I will also say right now is that anyone who's been actually playing for more than 2 years and has played a decent amount of shows in that time should NEVER be playing for less than $100. If you are a promoter trying to scam someone like that just to make more $ for yourself it's just disrespectful and weak.

All of you DJs have a responsibility to yourself and to the DJ community to stand up for yourselves and for djs in general. If everyone did that then the standard will be more solid and less people will be taken advantage of or undercut by someone who doesn't care and is desperate to play for as low as it takes.

Last edited by DJNemesis; May 03, 06 at 06:23 PM.
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Old May 03, 06
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Havent heard anything from Tayfoon in a while... I hope he says something soon, I think this threads got 30 page potential.
ya he carried this thread for a page or two hahaha
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Old May 04, 06
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A good question to ask is, if you do it for the love.. is that just love for yourself and your own enjoyment and position in the big picture of things?
Or is "doing it for the love" better defined as doing it not only for your own enjoyment but also love for your fellow djs and the dj community/culture itself and wanting djs to be appreciated, respected, and treated well.. not taken advantage of.
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