Apr 25, 06
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Just a quick question - are all the people that are not happy with their wages for DJing are relying on DJing as their main source of income?
If that's the case for some - then I would advice to start looking for a secondary job because the (electronic) music industry is not very stable right now and not everyone can be satisfied as they wish. 
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Apr 25, 06
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Chewy im disapointed in you. Suply and demand? What were seeing is alot more DJ's who are just starting out playing more then well established DJs because they want a fair pay. However your still paying the same or more per ticket just to see less experinced DJs.
Asking $100 hr/ is like the government setting minimum wage. DJ's playing for free/cheep is like doing your work experince or starting at McDicks for $6 /hr. It's a little diffrent when your DJ'ing for a buddy or fundraiser.. otherwise promoters are striaght up making money off of your service. Quote:
Are you kidding? Very few if lucky can actualy use it as their job. Usualy you have to be DJing top 40's/hip hop or be someone like Cezh or Vinyl Richie playign 3-5 times a week. Then again a top 40's DJ often makes $300-$500 a night!!! So I dont know why ppl are bitchin when a dj is asking for $100 /hr??? Most DJ's do it as a hobbie and/or a second job when you start to establish yourself. Most DJ's have full time jobs already. However the cost to DJ especialy if your doing it regularly starts to cost alot more then just a hobbie. Wether or not if its your job or not... you should still be paid for your service and entertainment. If I was in it for the money or as an actual 'job' id be spining britney spears and 50 cent. Last edited by Ree Fresh; Apr 25, 06 at 01:41 AM.
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Apr 25, 06
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21 pages and counting.
oh come on ppl, it ain't rocket science. u wanna get paid well, u spin like this http://sideshowbob.darkravers.net/fi...4/SSB_8264.JPG Last edited by stephen_c; Apr 25, 06 at 06:57 AM.
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Apr 25, 06
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Apr 26, 06
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^^ ANOTHER spin on the "Dj union" idea, would be to require licensing of DJs that entertain in venues that require / demand skill.
If X house building company hired Y amount of untrained illegal workers with no real experience or education and sold you a cheap/average priced house that collapsed on you ---- there'd be a lot of shit flinging around for it, believe you me. If party-goers supported the local DJs and ONLY went to events where the established favorites were represented --- the companies not booking them would be HURTING REALLY REALLY SOON and change their ways. Maybe we could certify quality club/rave DJs based on experience and skill, and a promoter booking a non-certified DJ for anything other than an opening/closing (in the case of a rave) slot would be the same as a contractor getting monkey to build your house. LOL. Actually, no, I'm up for free though and less regulation in general, and parties are just that -- parties -- anything goes... I say it's really the party goers that we DJs should be disapointed in if they don't seem to mind that total newbies are stealing the limelight (for free) while their beloved DJ veterans are getting pushed aside because promoters are cheaping out of proper pay. :P
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Apr 26, 06
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Apr 26, 06
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true it's easier to find good music these days, however, it's not really any easier to build an awesome set than it was when I started DJing in 1995.... it still takes love of the music, a fair amount of music theory and skill, and love of performing/making people dance to pull off a half decent set. and then there are the masters of the craft-- pushing envelopes further, always ... inspiring the rest of us to take it further.
Honestly, professional DJs would be dumb not to declare taxes.... that means all their gear and music is also a "Business expense" it's really worth the benefits -- besides -- people like Sasha making $40,000+ a show -- hmm -- if they have no declared income .. how long b4 they go to jail do you think?? Really, I think there should simply be 2 divisions, but it's really a lot of gray matter in the middle ... but there are small little informal events and bedroom/hobby DJs, and there there are huge, pro $200 ticket events and also, professional (local and tour) DJs. If the small events and bedroom DJs want to keep it low-stress, cool man, that doesn't offend me, but the working DJs and those that play big ass events deserve respect, fair pay, and to stop gettin screwed over. :)
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Apr 26, 06
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Why would you mention Sasha ? Not that I like him but no one in Van would ever come close to Sasha Pro DJ's all pay taxes playing at some stage at apex doesnt make you a pro dj, hence you dont need to pay taxes since you dont even make that much
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Apr 26, 06
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No one in Vancouver not come close to Sasha?
Please. He's not THAT great and there is serious talent in Vancouver. It is just not many of them have gotten an chance to show their skills on a larger scale.
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Apr 26, 06
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Names and accomplishments please
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Determining a DJ's talent is like grading art. How talented do you really think pacasso was as an artist? I think he was more lucky and smart about 'talking' his work then actualy drawing somthing to scale. Therefore why we have some very talented DJ's in this city who just havnt been discoverd yet. Infact I have yet still to check some of them out yet :( (opps, rhia under cubed's account)
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Apr 26, 06
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if you haven't been spinning since 92 and you don't live in the UK the odds are STACKED against you for real. if anything vancouver has had some of the best talent in north america ESPECIALLY considering the small size of this city.
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Apr 26, 06
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Well in this city you have alot of dj's that I tip my hat off to.... Primarily one's who not only dj but also produce there own tracks. Alot of others are veterans... have the skill... have the recognition because they have done alot for the scene on various avenue's. They you have people who just get shit lucky who may seem like a 1 hit wonder.... in the end they don't contribute... they don't take the time to try and produce a track or anything. There are alot of dj's/producers in this city that has so much talent its sometimes a god damn shame that they are isolated in one area if you know what I mean... They are typically worth each and every penny. However there are alot of people that are just not worth it and again the one's that have made it somewhere so far is shit lucky but sometimes karma is a bitch ya know.
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