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Btw, thanks to the DJs who've contacted me thus far regarding payment for Sinful, if this thread is any indication, I think we're saving ourselves a lengthy public debate later on.
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Apr 21, 06
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However getting the actual cash was not my intent of this thread. My intent was to explain and show those what a DJ is worth, becuase we still have some promoters and DJ's who seem to have the mantality that you should be thinkfull enough just to play, never mind getting paid. Last edited by Ree Fresh; Apr 21, 06 at 06:03 PM.
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most dj's in vancouver and other cities are worthless as it is, anyone can do it if they wanted to, all you need is some cash, a few weeks practice and your in. The people who produce there own music and show artistic skill should be the ones who get paid, but it seems like that doesnt happen as much as it should.
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Again your facts are not stright. When I played for Solid they sent me an email contract stating my pay. They paid me fairly and what I was worth... I had no complaints. I dont know why you mentiond the unconsiouse bros. Last time I played for them was over 2-3 years ago at Tribecca. Again I was taken care of for my worth.
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Apr 21, 06
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Theres a reason why this thread is 19 pages long... go read them ive repeted and tryed clearing up the story too many times now. Although you could probly skip 12,13, and 14... thats just a none sence flame war :p Honestly there are tons of great points made from the start to present on almost every page.
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Apr 21, 06
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I unfortunately was told about this thread and went through the sad 19 pages that it has become over the days.
I personally don't believe in playing free but more than dj's taking jobs for free, Vancouver is a popularity contest. That being said, since I have never heard anything from the dj that started this thread, her self worth is debatable to me therefore I cannot say that perhaps someone else should be getting payed those 75-100 bucks, that I still consider peanuts in the real world. Arguements go back and forth between buying records, buying gear and spending time practising. Wake up, nobody forces any of you to do that. You can get music free (Im not encouraging that btw). In my case I spend time and money because I like people hearing my work, so I dont play out but maybe I should. I have 'fans' all over the place yet in Vancouver Im nobody. I recently heard that turntables were now considered an instrument so I guess that makes me a musician. Oh oh, I also have hundreds of thousands of dollars in cracked software, guess that makes me a producer too. I consider myself underrated and should be playing in Europe right now, jajaja. Argueing about setups is the least about my concerns, think sound is a bit more reasonable. Over the last few years Ive met many talented people from who Ive been lucky enough to learn a couple things from and they dont have any respect for simple reasons as not kissing ass or basically they do it because thats what they love. 25 dollars is peanuts and this thread has gotten old. If you dont like it, dont do it or make your own way. (Im so done with this scene I could care less about the aftermath of my comments)
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Apr 21, 06
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true dat^^,, i think many of us need to mature and take a look at our situation in life. Is it time to move on to the next big thing? As time progresses and new generations take form, we need to advance to the next stage in life, there are bigger and better things than parties and how much you get paid to dj. Our society doesnt need dj's, if there is ever a economic depression things like djing, shopping and other shit you do for fun will become obsolete.Take a look at your situation and ask yourself if your being mature. There are alot of people in this thread that continue to argue for the sake of trying to come out on top. I see many of you contradict yourselves at the same time. Most of you have proven your point, and alot of it makes sense, but give it up and move on.
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(Im so done with this scene I could care less about the aftermath of my comments)
^ then why bother making them? :) as to the popularity contest. umm, ya that's EXACTLY what music and djing, and in all reality a LOT of life is. but especially djing. popularity = people wanting to see you perform = money = you doing what you love as a living instead of as a hobby.
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Apr 21, 06
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Simply because I spent sometime in South America recently and people fighting over shit like this quite frankly disgusts me.
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we just live the life we live man. hating on people here because you've seen a different part of the world, isn't the healthiest way to look at things IMO
(edit :to sum up how i see your comments... you seem to want to feel better about yourself because you care about something going on elsewhere in the world, by putting down everyone in this thread for not doing the same, or not being more like you) <-kinda harsh of me to put it this way i suppose, but that's how i see it. and it's not like we don't care about those things too, but apparently you are 'disgusted' with us for not caring as much as you? Last edited by dabbler; Apr 21, 06 at 08:46 PM.
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Point taken and true, disgust is a harsh word to use. It basically comes down to were lucky to be where we are (in Vancouver for the matter) and to worry and fight over things like this is sad.
I havent always lived here and Im happy I have a family like the one I do, one that has taught me the things I know. What does happen is that you (not you but people) get so caught up in the system you forget how much shit you have. A trip does not change a person but does awaken them to somewhat change if theyre willing to accept it (a trip to Cancun does not count). I dont personally care as much as you might think about Africa or SA but it does make me look around and see how much I have without having it 'all'. I knew id feel the whiplash but at least it comes from a coherent person like yourself. btw, there is one more person in here that sees things a bit different and I dont need to feel better about anything, Im glad I have more important things to worry about nowadays. I did hear 'The Simple Life' seasons 1 & 2 are on sale at HMV for 20 bucks + tax. 25 should cover that... Quote:
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Apr 22, 06
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Ok my opinion is that if it's your job and that's all you do then always have a contract with a set amount and only take paid bookings.I on the other hand believe that we are lucky and privileged to get to do what we do if I was djing for money I would have quit along time ago I do it because I love it Azim paid me $250 to Dj New Years at the Plaza of Nations and ya know what I would've paid him to get to play 1 of the highlights of my life. Think about why you're djing and decide for yourself I personally could care less about getting paid because I love to play it's sweet when ya do get paid but as a promoter it's tough and when ya lose money and everybody else gets paid it hurts my goal for every party I ever threw was to break even and pay everybody something . I've been lucky my Djs have been great to me over the years but I pick djs that would rather play and not get paid if I lose money or not play at all.I've lost thousands but I can't put a price on the memories and experiences.To each there own but I play for love not money.
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That is not a proper sentence. Correction: Why can't people write proper sentences? edit - might as well lock 'er up... nothing else really needs to be said here Last edited by Billy Shears; Apr 22, 06 at 04:22 AM.
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Money Money Money!!!11!$@#
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