money obsessed individuals

[diva]

Originally Posted by dabbler

you are CLEARLY out of touch with reality. As an RN, even if you work 80 hours a week, every week of the year, you won't break 200K. Or do you not live in BC?

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$36.56/hr (the top wage) x 40 hrs a week = < $80,000/yr.
$36.56/hr x 80 hrs a week = < $160,000/yr, or with overtime would put them well over 200K but nowhere near "16 shifts per month"

Clearly.

This is the wage grid. Hospital RNs tend to work four shifts on, five shifts off. Which works out to about 12-14 shifts a month. I make $30-35.50/hour (considering night and weekend shift premiums which add $3.50-$5.30/hour to your pay), so roughly speaking $60,000 a year if I didn't work any overtime.

Picking up two overtime shifts a month at $60-$65/hour adds an extra $15,000 a year. It's really easy to work OT when you have so many days off. There's also a nursing shortage, which allows most RNs to work a lot of extra hours. It's pretty easy math.

http://www.bcnu.org/contracts_servic...gd-to-2008.pdf

You can check out the list of RNs at my hospital who make more than $75,000/year. There are 458 RNs who made between $75,000 to $100,000 last year if you check out page 34 of this pdf file. There's some weird rule that states that my work has to list all the employees who make over $75,000 on their website.

http://www.providencehealthcare.ca/d.../SOFI_2008.pdf

I wont name his name, but there is an RN that I work with on there who topped $200k. He works a lot, though.

Do you have any more questions? I can scan my last pay stub of the year if it makes you feel better.

[frogprincess]

i am not obsessed with monies, but i am planning on marrying a man who has a lot of it!

sincerely,

ms. G. digger

[diva]

Hi Dabbler and Stephen_C. It's really neat that you went through all the trouble to try and prove me wrong, though. Most hospitals will have salary info, along with names, on their websites. It's the law.

My friend and I wrote a long letter to the Georgia Straight last year about misrepresenting RN salaries in their paper because it discourages people, especially men, from considering the profession. They never published it.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by diva

By this same logic, someone like Ashlee (<3) shouldn't be posting about the expensive purse the bought because some people can't afford it.

Or Rawb shouldn't be posting about his building concierge because some people can't afford to live in buildings with concierges.

Or Rawb shouldn't be posting about latest his bonus or commission because not everyone gets bonuses.

Or Revolver shouldn't post about the trip to South America he took or the expensive camera lens he bought because not everyone can afford to travel or buy expensive cameras.

Or Frogprincess shouldn't post about the expensive kitchen gadgets she buys because not everyone can afford them.

I humbly request that you remove the word "logic" from the beginning of this post, because the rest of the post is insulting to that word.

I guess it's just our generation. I was raised with the idea that talking about your salary with friends is tacky. I know this doesn't mention anything about posting it online for all to see, so I'll have to check on it.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by diva

Hi Dabbler and Stephen_C. It's really neat that you went through all the trouble to try and prove me wrong, though. Most hospitals will have salary info, along with names, on their websites. It's the law.

My friend and I wrote a long letter to the Georgia Straight last year about misrepresenting RN salaries in their paper because it discourages people, especially men, from considering the profession. They never published it.

my exact words were "those figures she quoted are extremely optimistic."

u wrote 200K/yr, that's not realistic for a nurse.

there are senior bus drivers, longshoreman and other union types with 6 figures incomes. they do that by stacking overtime on graveyard, weekends and holidays, but that's not the norm. most take home normal union wages.

[diva]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

those figures she quoted are extremely optimistic.

there ARE nurses earnin $40+/hr, but that's with 9+ yrs of experience and a MN NP (MASTER OF NURSING - NURSE PRACTITIONER)

to get a MN NP, you need a minimum of 56 credits or 1 1/2 to 2 yrs of studies.
Prospective MN-NP Students - Program Courses & Structure

this news article explains all:
Top B.C. nurses on track to $90,000 a year

how do i kno this stuff, there's a doc in the family and the doc was married to a mn mp.

The NPs I work with work (work with three) 8-4. Monday to Friday. Sweet hours for the pay, but a senior RN working even a tiny bit of OT will make more.

Because of this, a lot of people don't think it's worth the time (two years of lost income) and money to go back to school to get your NP. This further perpetuates the shortage of nurses in advanced practice and management levels. BCIT closed their NP program because no one wanted to do it. It wasn't viable.

[fritz]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

I guess it's just our generation. I was raised with the idea that talking about your salary with friends is tacky. I know this doesn't mention anything about posting it online for all to see, so I'll have to check on it.

This is a common opinion that I disagree with! I like the idea of people sharing their salaries (and voting choices), as it generates discussion about fair compensation in related industries. Information is good.

Tacky is the common and underlying opinion that said salary makes you better than your intended audience, which is pretty silly and can be easily separated from the above.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by diva

The NPs I work with work (work with three) 8-4. Monday to Friday. Sweet hours for the pay, but a senior RN working even a tiny bit of OT will make more.

Because of this, a lot of people don't think it's worth the time (two years of lost income) and money to go back to school to get your NP. This further perpetuates the shortage of nurses in advanced practice and management levels. BCIT closed their NP program because no one wanted to do it. It wasn't viable.

well, if u or ppl u kno are making $200K/yr as a nurse then more power to u.

the ex-inlaw who is a NP, (don't kno how many yrs she has been a nurse, i am guessin 10+) was doing around $80K/yr which is inline with industry norm.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by fritz

This is a common opinion that I disagree with! I like the idea of people sharing their salaries (and voting choices), as it generates discussion about fair compensation in related industries. Information is good.

Tacky is the common and underlying opinion that said salary makes you better than your intended audience, which is pretty silly and can be easily separated from the above.

Yeah, in related industries. None of us are in a related industry.

Nine times out of ten, it's simply competition.

[diva]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

my exact words were "those figures she quoted are extremely optimistic."

u wrote 200K/yr, that's not realistic for a nurse.

there are senior bus drivers, longshoreman and other union types with 6 figures incomes. they do that by stacking overtime on graveyard, weekends and holidays, but that's not the norm. most take home normal union wages.

Well yeah, I never said it was common.

Why do you refer to RNs as "union types"? And why do you lump them in with bus drivers and longshoremen? Would you lump an engineer in that category? What about a pharmacist?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by diva

Why do you refer to RNs as "union types"? And why do you lump them in with bus drivers and longshoremen? Would you lump an engineer in that category? What about a pharmacist?

If they are getting 200k for their union job, and we're discussing pay in unions, then yes.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by diva

Well yeah, I never said it was common.

Why do you refer to RNs as "union types"? And why do you lump them in with bus drivers and longshoremen? Would you lump an engineer in that category? What about a pharmacist?

nurses are not union?
i apologize, u are superior.
i will lump u in w/ doctors, lawyers, engineers and judges.

[rawb]

I THOUGHT NURSES WERE UNION, LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY l

[diva]

Not all nurses are union.

It's not about being superior. Honestly I'm more about wanting more high school students who are thinking about university to consider taking nursing instead of another science degree that wont help them get a career in the long run. A large portion of the public has a negative perception of unionized employees. This is a fact.

It's about wanting to attract people into the profession, but promoting its positive attributes (good pay, professional governing body, science degree) and dispelling the negative ones (not a profession, lazy union ppl, only dumb women go into it). When this happens, our health care system will improve greatly, and patients, as a result, will receive better care. Totally getting side tracked here, but I'm pretty passionate about really trying to encourage people (especially guys) to consider nursing. Our health care system will collapse in a decade if more people don't go into nursing.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by diva

but I'm pretty passionate about really trying to encourage people (especially guys) to consider nursing.

Especially sexy single guys, rawr!

[Pussy*Kat]

^ ???

[dabbler]

perhaps it was the wording of

2. Most of the women under 30 that I know who are making $80-100k a year are RNs.
3. Most of the women under 40 that I know who are making more than $100k a year are RNs.
4. Most of the women I know who are making more than $200k a year are RNs

You are implying that you became an RN (in part) because you will make over 200K/yr as long as you do it long enough, and that you know many people who make that much. (at least 3, 2 of which are nurses)

Or at least, that's how I took it.

[Mr Ektion]

money as a topic - i totally think it's a valid thing to talk about. especially with economic uncertainty affecting everyone's lives, it's important to discuss what's happening to really understand what we're going through.

wages as a topic - not a good topic to brag because jobs change. If i were to get fired from my luscious $15g a year job tomorrow, i'd be left with the person i am today. So really, happiness is relative to the person i am. Not my wage. Money does not make up for misery. Sure, i could make $50g's a year shoveling grain into trucks... but i'd be much happier being a poet living on pocket change.

I've said it before and i'll say it again. happiness comes down to your quality of life. Having a nice things and a nice place is more of a sense of accomplishment and comfort than a feather in your hat to brag or elevate yourself above anyone. I want my career and life choices to be in line with my obsessions.

[oddmud]

Originally Posted by diva

No mortgage, but I only spend 21% of gross income to live in a pretty nice one bedroom and den in Yaletown. I invest every month. I don't have to worry about gas money because I don't own a car. I'm only 26. I wanted to treat myself to a pair of $500 shoes. I guess that means you win.

You brought it up, not me.

[oddmud]

Merry Fucking Christmas!

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by dabbler

perhaps it was the wording of

2. Most of the women under 30 that I know who are making $80-100k a year are RNs.
3. Most of the women under 40 that I know who are making more than $100k a year are RNs.
4. Most of the women I know who are making more than $200k a year are RNs

Keep in mind that a lot of the women she knows, period, are nurses.

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by oddmud

Merry Fucking Christmas!

No doubt..

It's interesting how almost no-one on this board would tell you that "money = happiness" or "money = success", and yet look at the shit storm the topic creates.

Then again pretty much every topic seems to create a shit storm around here for the last few months.

[rawb]

Originally Posted by Grapes

No doubt..

It's interesting

DONT TELL ME HOW TO FEEL, FUCKHEAD

[stephen_c]

i've met many happy 7 figures rich ppl, some of whom are obsessive.
i've met many happy common ppl livin btw pay cheques
each to their own.

[Courtney]

Originally Posted by Pussy*Kat

Im lucky to have a financial planner for a Mom

wow
that is so lucky