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Special swiftbeats anouncement...
Just so everyone knows, here is what went down at break beat warfare......
A group of people were looking for one person who they wanted to hurt. They tried to force their way into the party but we were able to get them outside , that's when they smashed the windows and forced their way in the venue with weapons and mase .When we were trying to get those guys out our buddy got stabbed in the back.( thanks dusten for trying to help , we're so sorry that you got hurt) Dusten was one of the first to go after him and we give him props for that. There was nothing any security could have done against that unless they had guns. We searched almost all of the people but at some times we were too busy to search all. The people with the weapons forced their way in , it's not like we could have searched them and asked for their weapons. This fight had nothing to do with Swift Beats or MRC. besides that we are the unlucky ones to have it happen at our party. Rhia you think the "first impession " of security would have stoped this? Also Dont blame hip hop I'll bet you the guys who did this didn't even like hip hop. This was an unfortunate but icsolated incident and we know this as fact. Last edited by SWIFTBEATS; Dec 11, 04 at 09:22 PM. |
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sorry to hear that this had to happen to you guys talked to Tom last night heard he got a pretty bad load of mace to the face.. Hope Dustin is ok and everything is put to rest. Very unfortunate incedent just glad to know it didnt escalate to somthing much worse there on the spot..
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^ shut up.
Stop blameing this on security. It had nothing to do with security. the people that did this knew what they were doing and NO ONE could stop them. Even if they tried. It really sucks that it happened.... and especially to such a dope party and what not... but fuck...NO ONE COULD STOP THEM so shut up. |
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kindly ask them to stop and hand over there weapons? from everything i heard not much could be done in a situation that was like this ps why not post that on ur account.... |
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Just goes to show that some people just dont have the nerve to post negative shit under thiere own account how sad... |
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Swiftbeats should not come under fire for this. Like it was said before, they were the unlucky ones because it happened at their party. By the sounds of it, the party was as secure as an underground party can be.
You're never 100% safe from this kind of thing, but if you need that assurance, then why don't you (everyone blaming SB) cough up the money for a 'legal', fully secured party. Last edited by CodaDrummer; Dec 12, 04 at 12:46 PM. |
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I wasn't there.. but from what I heard, the party was off the fucking hook until this shit went down. Fights could happen at any party.. it was just bad luck that it had to break loose at a sweet party like that. its a shame really.
So before you judge swiftbeats so quickly, take a step back and appreciate what a dope party it would've been without the fight. Props to them for another sick party. |
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Swiftbeats: I think were more sugesting security for ALL underground events. It just so happens that shit went down at this particular rave, but I dont think were pointing the blame finger at you guys.
Youll find security guards almost anywere these days even at a the Hippy Folk Festable. Some of the biggest complaints and concerns about the underground raves is that there is NO SECURITY, NO FIRST AID, NO FIRE EXITS. This is probly the cops and city's biggest worry because there is no one TRAINED to deal with these problems at the raves... hence why there so keen to shut parties down. I found mylsef (5'2" 105lbs) intoxicated carrying a machette at one underground party with no security. Of corse im not gonna harm anyone, but if anyone wanted too they could of easly taken that from me and put in the wrong hands. In most cases shit doesnt happen, but reality is most the ppl at the party are intoxicated and under the influence of somthing. You need to have a back up plan if any shit does go down. Like I said this goes to all underground events. And case of the other night is going to show alot of newbies and the city the danger of underground raves. PS: first impression of security could of given the gangsters a second though? So many times I hear comments like "what kind of security you guys have?" "No security at the rave" ususaly ppl are just trying to sneak in booz, but in this case if anyone wanted to cause shit they would realize there is no one trained or paid to stop them. And you guys mentioned "too busy to keep searching ppl" thats why Azim hires security... cus he doesnt have time to run a party and search ppl ;) Last edited by Ree Fresh; Dec 12, 04 at 01:31 PM. |
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I had some great talks with security gaurds and cops who both agree its more about your personality and attidude than how big you are. Its about DEALING with ppl, not being the physicly bigger person. Why do you see so many female security guards? They can still do a good job.
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Lets just say that was awhile ago. I dont remember how I managed to get it. I do remember giving a friend of mine shit for bringign it though. I trusted them with it, but not if they lost it or gave it to the wrong person. |
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I watched this show a long time ago about bodyguards. I think they were the bodyguards for the Queen or some other British royalty. Yes, these guys were not the biggest. They liked to blend in with the crowd so if a situation did occur, they had the element of surprise. For parties though, I think the best option is to have those big guys for intimidation. Make them very noticeable. |
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Last edited by Ree Fresh; Dec 13, 04 at 08:00 PM. |
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But again, this is the underground scene. To party freely like this, you must take some risks in the process. |
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Im not askign for high priced security such as Genisis. There are ppl we know who are trained security and have done underground events. You dotn have to have a fancy army to keep evryone safe, but to have a coupld of ppl who can focus on the ppl's safety might be a good idea when throwing an event with alot of ppl. |
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To my knowledge though, SB did have security for Breakbeat, right? |