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I encounter more women that are vendictive,fake,malicious,and callus.Than women who are down to earth,well spoken,educated and mature.
No,women should not rule the world.But yes,more women should have more to do with politics.
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hhhmmmmm, interesting posts.
1) firstly "rule" was a wrong choice of words, it seems headz are taking it a little too literally, so lets focus on taking an equal or greater adminastrative roles nationally. 2) Just because i didnt mention fathers ( BOBBYT) doesnt mean i dont believe fathers play a significant role, im FOCUSSING ON WOMEN, and whenever there is a chance to outline the significant role of "mother" in the history of the universe in spite of the role women played historically(a la sexism in all shapes and sizes) "motherhood" has still managed to hold a level that commands amazing respect, and admiration, that no man had anything to do with this) THIS IS SIGNIFICANT if your engaging in understanding policies of leadership. AKA in simpleton terms, i love my pops, hes one of the most important people in my life, but because hes a real man, he knows when mom is the BOSS.(historically this wasnt the case, but WE all evolve) 3.) i think everyone can admit, up until now, men have predominantly held leadership positions, yes? no? 4.) It also been hinted, and rumoured that behind every great man is a whole lotta fatherless children!!! naw kidding, i mean "a great women" 5.) of course women are just as _______________ men are, but how far are we going to take being "politically correct" (alex) Your brand of, emalgumating the masses without distinction as a means to have racial and gender equality is absurd and ignorant. Its not about looking at people as all the same WE ARE NOT, its about celebrating and respecting our differences 6.) with the last comment in mind, i think most people can agree that any women, regardless of creed had been in the "predjudicially oppressed" box at one point in there life, so what do the LADIES feel like the obstacles are? I know theres a women or two on this site alone, that know their shit when it comes to understanding policy, and social dynamics, what do you think? 7.) lastly - ALEX you need to shut the fuck up, seriously. In your attempts to be reasonable, equal and intelligent, youve gone into a realm of uberlogic, that is so far removed from humanity, i wondering if your a robot. Let the ladies speak, most of the male answers may be true, and legitimate, but who cares, the fact that women have not had a voice for so long, makes me hold the opinion that perhaps a little female "nonsence" might still be better than the best of logic that men had come up with. Yes - men and women can hold similiar qualities interchangebly, but thats not the point, and that wasnt the question. The direction in dialogue i wanted to explore are what are the setbacks, pitfalls and general consensus that may hold a women, young or old, back from taking leadership postions of mainstream political parties AND grassroots resistance movements. In the fight against oppression, i firmly and trully believe, women will be at the forefront. They NEED TO BE.
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girls generally like to please and be accepted by men and therefore are submissive and lack confidence to challenge them.
women get past this. there are few women that actually post on this site. esoteric is right about the past, but wrong about the future. western women are gaining equality but we have a long road ahead still. veiled women in egypt were getting stoned by men in tshirts for trying to vote last week. think about this! in order to live in equality women need to have an equal role in politics. end of story.
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Masons would never allow it. 
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brotherhoods will fall.
change is everywhere, cultface.
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ugh, the ammount of stereotypes flung around in this thread could choke an elephant.
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If you want to know what it would be like you just have to look back, and
check out what happened with some of the Queens or Emperoresses. Some of these chicks were so vicious it made their male counterparts look like the joy-luck club by comparison. That being said, now to get myself in trouble: The world is dominated by men. Always has been, always will be :171:
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I dunno,
put into that situation i think women act just as callous as men. The great nurturing women you speak of generally would not choose that line of work. All the girls i know who are in the political science program and aiming towards posistions in government are very competative, hard working, and opinionated just like the men. I don't really see a difference. I mean, Condellezza Rice, need i say more? Today she just said that the US does not torture and follows the geneva conventions, is not perfect and thus might torture, and does not promise that it won't happen again. Holy contradictions and running in circles.
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...and it's probably these same stereotypes that have retarded the growth of equality among sexes, races, etc etc. no matter what I am doing, I don't want to be supported for it just because of the fact that I am a woman. Concessions should be given based on merit, no?
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Stereotypes? fuck yeah, so comment on it instead of dropping a dime and fucking off. Dont care? Then fuck off. My only reason why i dropped this thread in the first place is to get a feel for heads ideas. Why a rave site? Why not? Personally in my opinion, there ISNT a spot thats inappropriate dialogue. Then again i probably didnt need to write all this shit, i think everything was done at: FUCK OFF.
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WHAT DID THAT MEAN? You talked about how YOU want to be regarded on your merits, not as a "charity" case to appease the "politically correct" anxities of people to fucking disconnected to actaully no what the term means. Great grand wonderful! But in reality the struggle for equal rights doesnt live and die with one individual. WHAT DID THAT MEAN? What im trying to say is that im glad your empowered and not looking for handout, i NEVER mentioned that or hinted at it. What im talking about is the community of women who DESPITE the fact that they are willing and more than capable to take on leadership roles DONT! Why? Oppression? By who? How? When? What are the strengths and weaknesses of current womens movements in Canada, and abroad? Although appreciated your example of GRRRRL POWER means fuck all, if you dont attacj yourself with similair women with similair struggles, and it is a lack of this community solidarity that eats away at the struggle for womens rights and any humanitarian rights movments aside from increasing action from the "oppressors themselves" i hope this is more clear, because what you have to say, and what all intelligent, concerned, independant women need to say, is what the fuck they think!? i hope this clears up the confusion. I meant no disrespect, nor was i trying to imply that women should get specifc oppurtunities solely because they are women regardless if they have the qualifications. That would be as reactionary as this thread is going. :(
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hold up 'cyph! I am NOT speaking in terms of helping women get rights and opportunities solely because they are women. What im trying to hear, is peoples opinions on the movement to try create an environment that enables women WHO DO HAVE WHAT IT TAKES to get to this positions despite, massive oppression that still happens today, although it may be a lot more subversive or "hidden" than it used to be. And for the record i believe Condoleeza Rice is a clone of George Bush Sr. gone horribly wrong, but the collective ruling class of the US thought, "hell why not, lets give em a negro, and a women and that!" (shudder)
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stupid fuck
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Of course women can be just as ignorant and evil and bla bla bla bla, as men, thats not the point, nor was it mine. The point or atleast what i wanted to hear was how people thought about women getting significant oppurtunities to be leadership positions. And the reality that there is still oppression against women. Or did that get taken care of too, like our "racism problem" our "poverty" problem.......Like anything else, just cause YOU dont see it on a daily basis, doenst mean that it doesnt exist. And regardless, if women and men are just as evil as the next one, that still doesnt explain why throught out the history of the galaxy men have been the ones to lead. As for mothers raising the men that turn out to be monsters, you didnt account for the oppurtunity that such men would wind up with chainmail totting dnb worshipping miscreants such as YOU as compadres!? hmmmmmmmmmm :) ps: marget thatcher was a fembot Last edited by fable; Dec 10, 05 at 10:10 PM.
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this has got to be the most pathetic thing i have ever read. it seems like you are writing this to get positive attention from women, and that shows you probably don't get that much pussy. if you truly believe what you say, then you have no fuckin idea of anything about female nature, and are completely oblivious to the matter.
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