Taking his last name

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by prozac

Wait, Dave's not actually your name? spill it! (so curious)

David Francis Darling Leckie

I got a little bit too much of "Lucky Leckie" as a kid. I spent a good portion of my adulthood avoiding telling people my last name.

Funny thing is, I don't even mind my middle names, even though those seem like I'd be more embarrassed by them. But in high school a friend of mine refused to call me "Dave" because it was too normal, and refused to call me "Leckie" because I hated it at the time, so instead she called me "Darling".

[ill-esha]

Hey, you know, nothing is safe from being playground fodder.

What the hell possibly rhymes with Elysha?

Well, let me save you the trouble, "Elysha you're a geisha, get down on your knee-sha."

I hated my last name as a kid because it started with a Z so I was always last or first for everything (sometimes the teacher would go backwards to switch it up.) I always wanted to be an M or a J, somewhere nice and easy i the middle. But now I've kind of grown into it, and think it's cool, and I'm definitely the only person with my exact full name in the world. I'd change it if my husband's name was cooler than mine, and uncommon without being weird or ugly. That being said, it does sound kinda Arabic, so I get detained at airports far more often, but oh well. My kids can have his name. My clan's got my little brother to go forth and propagate the family lineage.

[Kraig]

^^ Lol.

[prozac]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

Hey, you know, nothing is safe from being playground fodder.

What the hell possibly rhymes with Elysha?

Well, let me save you the trouble, "Elysha you're a geisha, get down on your knee-sha."

It's true. I have a seriously boring name and I got "messy jessy" and "get bent, bentley".

[baby-phat]

My last name is french (Lavoie) and there's really not much that rhymes with it. My teacher's could never pronounce it right and the kids always called me froggy legs. :( I've always kinda wished I had my moms maiden name, it's italian (Petrini) I love it and that side of my heritage very much.
As for me, when that time comes I would probably take my hubby's last name.

[Cool-Water]

a names a name who cares technically i have lots of last names o well

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Eh, Your bread-bringer argument is still a bit flawed, because there does still exist monetary imbalance in the workplace... women do still make less than men. Not to mention, since when is breadwinning everything to do with family? Yeah, the family's gotta eat but what if Mom's too busy cooking the kids' meals at home to get anywhere near a decent living? Is Mom's name all of a sudden cast aside simply because she chose to be a homemaker because she doesn't like the idea of someone else raising her kids? Still doesn't fly with me.

Flawed eh?

Last I checked we were discussing a social construct, one which we all input directly/indirectly to whatever end that may be, for better or worse. How can something purely subjective be flawed?

If you have a creative enough explaination let's have it, as this does come down to ego and the human condition, but correlating naming habits to a flaw in mutual cohabitation is gonna be really hard for you to argue for/against without coming off tres hippy.

Speaking of I just found a working model. None of this naming shit would matter if we were all a bit more prone to take a stroll down the drive and practice Qi Gong on some random off the street (seen it today myself). We could have names like 'running water' or 'votes for green party' or a name that bears significance to a personal trait, we could have it with a native american flair here in BC as a tribute to the Hadia peoples and such. There, 2 birds in one stone, and I factored in socio/political climate to boot.

Okay really though, monetary balance shmonetary balance. If you've got the attitude of success, you can make your mark in this world living in the west, Y chromosome or not.

[Lush]

Originally Posted by galaxie

There are a hell of a lot of Iranian names that sound absolutely horrible. I'm all for unique names, just ones that the kid will be able to pronounce and spell, and can't be made fun of too easily for.
Shadi, your names are Iranian but they're not tooooooo Iranian, you know what I mean? Like, if you named your daughter Kimia she'd get "Oh wow, that's a pretty name. What's the origin?" not "What? Say that again? How do you spell that?"

PS - I would rather have had incessant Indiana Jones references than "Nat is fat she looks like a rat". Gawd what DOESN'T my name rhyme with!? :P

No I totally see what you're saying - I'm not a big fan of that 'gh' sound that is so common in farsi and Iranian names in general.
I definitely want the pronunciation to be relatively straight forward when it comes to deciding on a name.

Coolwater - names are pretty important if you ask me - you only have to go by it your entire life!

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Okay really though, monetary balance shmonetary balance. If you've got the attitude of success, you can make your mark in this world living in the west, Y chromosome or not.

Funny how I always hear this argument from guys but never from chicks. And you still didn't look at anything I posted except started debating semantics about how it's impossible for your argument to be "flawed" *rolleyes*. But thanks for ignoring my entire post save for the first sentence. It was really enlightening.


Now I remember why I hate debating with you.

[djmarkpaul]

^Debate?

You want to use that word when I made it pretty clear that it was irrelevant to do so?

You had no substance to your point, and grappling with it would have been semantics ad infinitum. It's nice how you try to turn the subject around on me when you're guilty of it yourself, and in this case, it's only you. See what I did was try to avoid semantics, you have your say, I have mine. I didn't say my point was not flawed. I said considering this a subject that one could consider flawed is like debating apples taste better than oranges. Purely subjective. I can see your ego really wanted an antithesis so when I didn't give you one you just jumped on me like a rabid dog. Good on you for that, I'm sure it helps you 'win' when you 'debate'.

*shakes head*

[galaxie]

boy oh boy am I ever glad for my ignore list right now :)

[Kraig]

^^ I thought you took my last name INTERNET WIFE!!!

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

^Debate?

You want to use that word when I made it pretty clear that it was irrelevant to do so?

You had no substance to your point, and grappling with it would have been semantics ad infinitum. It's nice how you try to turn the subject around on me when you're guilty of it yourself, and in this case, it's only you. See what I did was try to avoid semantics, you have your say, I have mine. I didn't say my point was not flawed. I said considering this a subject that one could consider flawed is like debating apples taste better than oranges. Purely subjective. I can see your ego really wanted an antithesis so when I didn't give you one you just jumped on me like a rabid dog. Good on you for that, I'm sure it helps you 'win' when you 'debate'.

*shakes head*

You're right. This isn't a debate. If you were to argue against more than one word for each post I make, it might be a debate. But you're picking the first word of my posts that you disagree with and basing an entire retort on that one word. That's not a debate, that's a distraction.

*plonk*

[lildonkey]

they should take one of those quiz things like

"what would your hooker name be"

or

"what would your porn star name be"

and take turns answering questions... and the final result = their last name

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Kraig

^^ I thought you took my last name INTERNET WIFE!!!

I'm sorry hubby, I knew I shouldn't have lied :(
forgive me?

[Tea]

WOW this thread blew up

IMO you guys are too young to be thinking about this stuff ...cross that bridge when you get there...Alison (with ring), what are your thoughts, gonna take the name (when you get there of course)?

[robyn]

tara, if this thread gets you down just do what i do with all the couples i know and try and pick out the 50% that will end up divorced.

[tiedye]

I love that game. One of my other favourites was inspired by George Carlin... when you're walking in public, look around and ponder just how many of the people you see will eventually require an autopsy.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

You're right. This isn't a debate. If you were to argue against more than one word for each post I make, it might be a debate. But you're picking the first word of my posts that you disagree with and basing an entire retort on that one word. That's not a debate, that's a distraction.

*plonk*

HAHA!

You know maybe if you weren't totally bullshitting you'd have something to go on. I addressed everything you said in detail except for these following points:

Women do still make less than men.

- Not my fault, and it's not like that in every industry either. Ingenuity and good marketing is the key to wealth, not your sexual disposition.

Not to mention, since when is breadwinning everything to do with family?

- It's not. Where did I say it was?


Yeah, the family's gotta eat but what if Mom's too busy cooking the kids' meals at home to get anywhere near a decent living?

- Her problem sugartits. One should really give that some thought before they decide to be preggers, let alone start a family.


Is Mom's name all of a sudden cast aside simply because she chose to be a homemaker because she doesn't like the idea of someone else raising her kids?


- Here's the bulk of your arguement which I ignored, and for good reason. That being, ultimately, it's subjective. You'll see the point I'm about to make is already echoed in my previous responses, but that wasn't good enough for you because you wanted to argue. Well whatever, here goes.

My exgf's mom is the homemaker and she works full time, she took her husbands last name without giving it a second thought. It seems that women, especially here in the west, are losing this kind of loyalty these days. Maybe that's a piece to the puzzle on why about 50% of marriages end in divorce these days, not enough loyalty.

I believe in the model that the man brings home the money, and the women raises the kids, you don't have to. I'd be open to other models, but one where loyalty and respect to the masculine/feminine principle are still at the forefront. I find that females are taking upon too many male qualities these days, and thus are loosing touch with their feminine nature. That might not be an issue for you, but it is for me.


Fin.

[Tea]

Originally Posted by robyn

tara, if this thread gets you down just do what i do with all the couples i know and try and pick out the 50% that will end up divorced.

DOCTOR PHILL KNOWS lol

Robyn, i'm pretty sure the world is a better place because of you, or at least mine is. :D

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

David Francis Darling Leckie

I got a little bit too much of "Lucky Leckie" as a kid. I spent a good portion of my adulthood avoiding telling people my last name.

Funny thing is, I don't even mind my middle names, even though those seem like I'd be more embarrassed by them. But in high school a friend of mine refused to call me "Dave" because it was too normal, and refused to call me "Leckie" because I hated it at the time, so instead she called me "Darling".

leckie, did you go to brentwood on the island? did you know my friend robert toews?