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Old Jan 09, 08
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i wouldn't be laughing if I were you, Dave - the canucks are 1 torn ACL/MCL/knee injury away from finishing dead last in the conference. At least the Oilers win and (mostly) lose as a TEAM - the canucks are unblievably one-dimensional.....just a goalie. they are SO BORING to watch now - mediocrity at it's finest (or worst, however you want to say it).
This argument makes me laugh. NHL salary caps being what they are, teams are given a similar amount of monetary power to invest in players. Basically you're criticizing Nonis for following a tried and true formula: Start with a top tier #1 goaltender, and build out from there with rock solid defense and timely scoring (although I'm the last person to argue we couldn't use another scoring winger)

The decisions our management have made has paid off in spades; it's pretty disingenous to call a team that has won way more than it's lost with 3 of its top defensemen out for long stretches "one-dimensional"

Maybe you have to be a Canucks fan to enjoy their wins... although if you think we're devoid of offensive flash, you haven't been paying attention to the Sedins this year (hard to believe, since they put on a show against no-one moreso than your Coilers). In the end, though, I can't say really give a crap what fans of the other 29 teams think of Canucks victories. I love them :love:

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Sure, the Oil are a couple of years away from being a contender, but the experience that guys like Cogliano, Gagner, Nilsson, Gilbert, etc are getting NOW will be invaluable. They just have to make sure they sign Pitkanen to an extension.
Who, who, who and who? And sign who?

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Colleen's boyfriend bet me $100 that the canucks will win a Stanley Cup by the end of the 2010 season. I've never MADE easier money.....
Of course not. It's ridiculous to make a straight up bet like that on ANY team (although you could make a case for the Red Wings). Too many variables over the course of a season, NHL playoffs are wildly unpredictable, etc etc.

That said, I would put the Canucks' chances of accomplishing this at about 20-1. Oilers: 100-1

Nuff said ;)
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also it's interesting to note that the Canucks are 4-2-1 in games without Loungo this season...

and if the coilers are looking so hot I have a $100 that says the Canucks win a cup before they do starting now.
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it's pretty disingenous to call a team that has won way more than it's lost

huh? and this has added up to how many Stanley Cups? even the 'Coilers' who limped in just ahead of the hometown have had a better run lately than the canucks. they don't give out prizes for finishing in the top 5 in the conference, or for playing this defensive style of hockey you seem to admire so much.

read my lips. the canucks will NEVER EVER EVER win a Stanley Cup. they just don't have what it takes.

and you can quote me on that.

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Old Jan 10, 08
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i love people who bring up stanley cup wins from 20 years ago and imply that it has any bearing on hockey teams of today.

I don't even watch hockey (nor am i a canucks fan), but the retardedness of this just leaks through my computer screen and threatens to gum up my keyboard.
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LOL @ 'Senior' being EXACTLY the type of fan Grapes made this thread about in the first place.

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i love people who bring up stanley cup wins from 20 years ago and imply that it has any bearing on hockey teams of today.

I don't even watch hockey (nor am i a canucks fan), but the retardedness of this just leaks through my computer screen and threatens to gum up my keyboard.
It's good to know that it matters enough for you to comment on it! the only people who say stuff like this are fans who have never known what it's like to cheer for a winning team.
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It's good to know that it matters enough for you to comment on it! the only people who say stuff like this are fans who have never known what it's like to cheer for a winning team.
pointing out your stupidity entertains me more than hockey which is pretty low on my totem pole to begin with.

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i love people who bring up stanley cup wins from 20 years ago and imply that it has any bearing on hockey teams of today.
I like this line.

It's like... hey, the Oilers won a ton of Stanley Cups in the 80s....


.... when they had Messier and Gretzky.....
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pointing out your stupidity entertains me more than hockey which is pretty low on my totem pole to begin with.
getting a rise out of people entertains me WAY more than hockey ever could.

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Gretzky as a coach entertains me more than any of this.

Dude has a short fuse!
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LITTLEJON THIS WHOLE 'YOUR TEAM IS AT THE TOP OF THE DIVISION, BUT YOU SUCK' THING IS CUTE AND ALL BUT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU USE THE BOLD TAG THE FACT IS, OUR TEAM IS DOING WELL, WHILE YOUR TEAM IS A DISMAL FAILURE.

I MEAN, WE'RE 5TH IN THE LEAGUE, YOU'RE 25TH, ITS OBVIOUS YOU'RE JEALOUS OF A TEAM THAT IS STRONGER THAN YOURS IN EVERY ASPECT (MORE GOALS PER GAME, LESS GOALS AGAINST, BETTER HOME RECORD, BETTER AWAY RECORD, BETTER GOALTENDER)

YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LEAVE A LITTLE IN THE TANK BECAUSE YOU WILL BE BITCHING ABOUT THE CANUCKS A LOT MORE WHEN WERE IN THE PLAYOFFS, YOU'RE NOT, AND YOU HAVE AT LEAST TWO ROUNDS OF CRYING ABOUT HOW WERE GOING TO LOSE. o
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getting a rise out of people entertains me WAY more than hockey ever could.

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Old Jan 11, 08
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what is it with canuck fans that they take everything bad that's said about their team so fucking PERSONALLY?

seems like this never-won-a-championship thing makes them all snippy. they get their panties in a knot when it's suggested that their team is nothing more than a goalie. they try and console each other with the fact that, while the team is excruciatingly painful to watch, at least they're WINNING.

unfortunately, the path to the cup is going to go through San Jose and Detroit, and the canucks are 0-5 against those 2 teams this year.

including tonights loss.

which also means that the lowly OILERS are a mere 6 points back of the mighty canucks.

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GUYS I HATE IT WHEN WE FIGHT

and the coilers still suck
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what is it with canuck fans that they take everything bad that's said about their team so fucking PERSONALLY?
I don't think anyone really has?

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they get their panties in a knot when it's suggested that their team is nothing more than a goalie.
Calling bullshit =/= getting panties in a knot


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they try and console each other with the fact that, while the team is excruciatingly painful to watch, at least they're WINNING.
Better than losing?

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unfortunately, the path to the cup is going to go through San Jose and Detroit, and the canucks are 0-5 against those 2 teams this year.

including tonights loss.
The thing I find funny about this is that if the Oilers DO somehow sneak in the back door to the playoffs, they're the ones who are going to be playing one of these teams in the 1st round.

Best of luck.

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which also means that the lowly OILERS are a mere 6 points back of the mighty canucks.

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Check your math, and also check games in hand. Then look at realistic prospects for the rest of the season and get a reality check.
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Oilers fans say "they were so good in the 80's!!!!"

I say "so was your Mom but she's fat and ugly now so lets move on already!"
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and another thing about the Oilers, THEY WON THE LOTTERY! claiming that anything other than luck made them the team they were in the 80's is like a person claiming good financial planning helped them win the 6/49.
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Old Jan 12, 08
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The only Canucks game I went to, I didn't care for very much. I find Canucks fans worse then Leafs fans to be honest. They just want to pick a fight with you if you cheer for someone else. They can't respect that there are other teams in the NHL... that have a fan base.

... at least I can have an actual conversation about hockey with a Leafs fan.

Edit: Oh and last year... when my team made it to the finals, and people were randomly cheering at me while I was walking down the street in my Sens jersey... I didn't like that at all either. In fact I hated it! Cheer for your own failed team. Don't look to my team to ease your woes.

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I still find Junior hockey about twice as entertaining as the NHL.
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... at least I can have an actual conversation about hockey with a Leafs fan.
Oooh. Compared unfavorably to Leafs fans.. that hurts :(

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Edit: Oh and last year... when my team made it to the finals, and people were randomly cheering at me while I was walking down the street in my Sens jersey... I didn't like that at all either. In fact I hated it! Cheer for your own failed team. Don't look to my team to ease your woes.
The Sens are the only Canadian team Canucks fans don't really have a reason to hate. Montreal and Toronto both have too much support here (and Toronto is..... Toronto), and we've had too many battles with the Flames and Oilers over the years to cheer for them (most of which we've come out on the wrong end of.... except for a certain magical first round in 94)

People want a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup! Is that so wrong?

Too bad Ottawa really gagged on it last year :S I mean the Ducks were a tough team, but man....
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Ebbomega: I couldn't agree more. Junior hockey is becoming more and more entertaining to me. I'm actually going to the World Jrs next year.

Grapes: In post-lock out, Vancouver and Toronto have only met twice. So in my eyes, Vancouver fans don't actually have a reason to hate Toronto. I have more of a reason to hate Toronto, and I don't because they simply aren't a threat. Montreal is a second favourite of mine. They only team I actually "hate", is Philadelphia.
As for the cup thing... I want my team to win. I don't care if another "Canadian" team wins it. I didn't cheer on Edmonton or Calgary when they made it to the finals recently. Not my team.
Ottawa fans aren't used to people from outside Ottawa cheering for their team. When I see another person around Van with a Sens jersey or hat on. I assume their from Ottawa too.
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^ I wrote a reply to this and it disappeared :(

Anyways I understand not caring if another Canadian team wins. I don't care much (didn't really watch the Sens/Ducks final), I'd just like to see the reaction afterwards if the Sens won.

Leafs, Flames and Oilers I wouldn't want to win. Especially the Leafs.. god, TSN would go on for weeks about it
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Yeah, my appreciation for the Sens really comes down to "At least they're not the Leafs".
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Grapes: In post-lock out, Vancouver and Toronto have only met twice. So in my eyes, Vancouver fans don't actually have a reason to hate Toronto.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
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