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Sure, the parties cater to a large, diverse group of people, but I really don't think its a huge part of the 'scene' as it is. I can see why she wants the plaza shut down, people get used to the comfort and convienience of plaza parties, then when they happen to go to something smaller they bitch and moan if it gets busted, think they are 2 cool for check points, and do nothing but while online about how much it sucked for them. The best parties I've been to are small, and I'm sure a lot of people will agree. The few times I've gone to plaza, I've just ended up being extremely bored. It's almost summer anyways, it's time for outdoor massives, so I doubt that will make anyone miss it much anyways. This kind of thing happens every year anyways. 
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Apr 27, 03
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I dont think that closing plaza would accomplish shit..except make ppl who like plaza mad, and there will just be more underground parties...plus, ive done e many more times at ppls houses and shit then i have at a rave...and i know ppl who have done way more e than me and never even been to a rave...again closing plaza wont do shit...young kids just need to be taught not to do drugs or to be careful what they are doin and who they are gettin it from
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May 07, 03
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not to be harsh or anything, but that sort of mindset (throw party.... make profit) is the main problem with the rave scene right now, imo. Most of the promoters I know pretty much plan on losing money throwing a party, or at least know that that'll most likely happen. They aim to break even, or make a bit of profit to throw into the next party, but they definetly don't throw parties with the intention of making money off people. They throw parties for the love of it. I'll stop now before I get into the whole "in a perfect harmonious world" romantisizm. :) Just wanted to share my opinion. as for my view on the plaza, never partied there, never plan on it. I hope it stays open just for the fact that it keeps the mainstream from polluting the underground. Call me elitist, snobbish, or what you will. I don't care. The mainstream is polluted. Not people individually so much, but as a collective. The mainstream is all about consumerism, capitalism, basically using the people as a huge herd of cash cows. That's the exact opposite of what rave culture is all about. shit! I thought I said I wasn't going to rant. oops 
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May 11, 03
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personally i rather have the promoter make some money, the money is a good incentive to throwing a decent part with a high level of production, and just because a promoter intends on making money dosn't mean that they have to be a "rave sell-out" there has been plenty of really good parties where the promoter has also made a fair amount of cash
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May 11, 03
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I guess I should have reworded my original post to exclude the "regardless if it is a large or small event" as most of the smaller events I go to are thrown for the reasons you described. The large massives though, IMO, are purely for profit.
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May 11, 03
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God damn... this thread is soo long! Hehe... but now I want to voice my opinion since everyone else is doing it! I want to be cool too! (hmmm... reminds me of when i was 15 and so many ppl around me were doing drugs, so the sheep that i was, i wanted to be cool too!) :trippin:
If there's anything we can improve upon after learning from this whole situation... is to have a "daycare" or "playpen" section at raves for all the litttle ppl! That way they are segregated off in a small corner where they are supervised while doing their drugs... and at the same time all us old perverts can watch them from a distance and point out which young 16 yr old girl that's wearing hooker boots is good butt fuck material! haha... :kam: but on a more serious note... im a young fella myself, only 19 yrs old. But i started partyin at 15, and popped my first time too. THen i decided to go to Hong Kong shortly after... and popped like a muthafucka @ parties there too! Except the chances of Hong Kong E bein closer to rat poison is quite high... therefore quite dangerous! What a surprise that I came back unscathed... especially when big buff fags lurk in the bathrooms and want to rape any defenseless person (not joking). And I was quite naive... thinkin I knew everything when probably I didn't. Yet today Im a success story cuz Im ballin like crazy.... jermaine dupri style... so I turned out alright. haha :284: My point here is that... I probably would have benefited from a daycare section at the raves back then. And I'd have lots of fun in one right now! Bring on the Raver Daycare @ Plaza! :hehe: PS: The upcoming movie "Daddy Daycare" starring Eddie Murphy was the inspiration of this post. :tounge1:
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http://www.islandkidz.org/ ~V
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I just wanted to make the point that even if you or a friend knows the guy, it is still possible to OD.
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When you buy drugs, from anyone, regardless of whether you know them or not. You shouldn't expect anything.....drugs are drugs. You never know what you are going to get. A number of factors contribute to making a person overdose. It is a narcotic, just like morphine, or codeine. So what a 6'3, 220lb man could take may not be the same for a 5'0 100lb girl. From my understanding, as I have friends that are very close with the girl, she didn't take 1 bad pill. She took 5 pills in a matter of two hours, with a smattering of other drugs. So to blame the people who sold her the drugs is wrong. She knew what she was doing. She was responsible for her. Not some drug dealer who was "selling bad shit". In my ten years of parties, I have never seen anyone intentionally sell bad drugs to make a profit. They sell the ones that don't work. Baby laxative, and baking powder. Not rat poison. Put the thread back where it was, in the archives. Let everyone involved, move on.
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very true. i just heard the guy that sold it to her sold her bad stuff. thats all. if she was the one who took 5 in 2 hours then yes it is her own fault. and there are drug dealers out there that sell bad drugs to people they dont know cause they just wanna make money.
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Look at it this way. The plazza gives a venue (and arguebly the desire) to do drugs. Do you think most of these kids would be popping caps of E if they were at home, an arcade, a hockey game etc... Raves have a reputation as a place to do drugs, you can't denny that. These kids go to raves, cause they hear it is a place you can get drugs. Drugs are cool. Dennying that would be as silly as saying most of the kids at the plazza go there for the music.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by NinjaBoy Do you think most of these kids would be popping caps of E if they were at home, an arcade, a hockey game etc... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by 4:20 dood... there are ALOTTA peeps out thre who believe that E doesn't belong JUST inside raves. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i did e well over 50 times before i ever went to a rave
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TO put in my two sence...i personally dont think that if the plaza to close it wont stop kids from doing a lil vitamin e....so many kids are getting into the stuffs...its crazy....the partie scene just exploded with youngins...not like its a bad thing...just got to know your limits and where your shit is coming from...thats important..never buy drugs from strangers....lol..some people over do it 2 is enough dont need any more than that...if you wanna get the high back up try smoking a doobie...lol...parties arent really what they used to be...it seems its more about the drugs and not the music...its sad really...for those of you who do go for the music and the people with the good ((vibes)) the props to you....just remeber....party responsibly....it maybe plur but add an extra R to the code.....for responsibility.... :118:
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^^^theres been youngin's going to raves for a long time, its everyone's own personal responsibility to do proper research of the drugs they put into there body, know their source, and body. The more we educate, the safer things are.
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