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Courtney's just pissed off because some girl she knows from school might die so let's back off. She has the right idea. Just let her vent. 
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Apr 24, 03
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No offense to anyone, but everyone is calling this girl stupid for taking something that the majority of us have at least tried before... IF she purchased it from someone at the rave that she didnt know then i'd say it was a stupid decision most likely based on ignorance... but she doesnt deserve to be in the hospital all the same, i started doing that shit when i was 14, and im lucky i didnt make the same mistake. Besides i know people who are popping like 5 caps a night and doing mush, etc and they arent getting any shit for what they are doing. I dunno, its kinda harsh though especially becuase courtney knows her. Anyways, the only good thing is that hopefully this incident will turn out ok, but act as a warning to people of all ages to be careful... be safe everyone
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Apr 24, 03
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I knew something happened to someone at Twisted was wasnt realling looking into it.. lol until I saw this post.. hmmm
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Apr 24, 03
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Oh yeah, im being really immature for writing about something I diss like. Maybe I shouldn't be an opinionated individual, and just jump on every commercialized bandwagon! Then maybe people like you would like me! Cause that’s what’s important..what people think about me!! YAY PLAZA! Yay 4 making drugs easily accessible to young kids!!Yay for my 13 year old cousin picking up a flyer @ Below the belt at Metrotown! Yay for her od'ing cause her body couldn't handel the cap of E she did(yes 1 cap). YAY for her friend calling me cause they were to scared to call her parents. Yay for me driving down there and then driving her to the hospital! YAY!!! GIve it up to the PLAZA massive! BOH BOH!
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Apr 24, 03
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i started partying when i was 15 and yes i did e...not very much but i still did it...i knew my limits..i did enough research to know what i was risking and i still risked it... people experiment....some people dont know there limits and when they start they just dont stop.. second...plaza parties are called massives for a reason...they are huge parties...what do you expect at a huge party...lots of people, lots of drugs, and lots of problems...these partieas are targeted for all ages...you get people ages 15-40+ third...i dont think that the plaza should be shut down or raves limited to 18+...not everyopne should suffer for a few peoples mistakes.... fourth...please dont bitch at courtney for her comments..ddont you think if you knew the girl you'd feel a little different about the whole situation? i respect her opinion and why are you telling her to stop partying because she doesnt agree with the drugs and is opinionated? i respect u girl! and lastly.....i feel really bad for this girl and her family...i really hope shes ok and she's learning from her mistakes. All the best for her....wishing the best
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Apr 24, 03
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Ok.....Now i have read this entire thread , lemme give my 2 cents....First off....If what has been reported is 4 pills + this , and + that.....i've been to like 1000 parties , been to everything from 3 day massives to 1 room sweatshops and let me tell you old skool or newbie no one person needs to consume that much of anything.....now as for od'in in general it could happen to someone on 1 cap.... And to solve that prob all you need to do is simple things like do half of that cap you bought from sketchy dealer number 2, or just not do 1 , or get one from a buddy you know, or just smoke weed for the night no one has ever od'd on weed, i think, but don't quote me on that.
Now I don't necessarily agree that all with young people should be partyin i think 15 is too young 17 - 18 is more apropriate, i started when i was 18 by then your in more aware of your limits....also by then you've more then likely have some serious experiences with alcohol by then. Which for the record has caused more post event deaths then all party od's. Now i don't think plaza should be shut down, i mean i don't go to every party there , but it's the only real venue we have that can entice larger name dj's that might not otherwise come, now alot of big name dj's can just go to club's but that does cut off alot of people who can and would appricate the music, unfortunatly alot of people lose sight of why they started partyin or some only started to do drugs in large numbers....i don't know everyone or all situations , i do know that 1. Another young life is in more trouble then it should be in. 2. Another family is suffering. 3. And yet another black mark on an already suffering scene. Now i know all i have done is point out obvious problems, but i do think there are solutions to this... 1. Age restriction I know it seems unfair , but if you think about it...it makes more sense.It would ensure the scene could be around just that little bit longer 17+ and ID at the door 2. Havin drug safe or some "safe" way for peeps to test their chemicals if they chose to do'em or start buyin them from friends you know or just don't do'em 3. As someone who has been known to bring people to party's that might not have gone or who might not do drugs regularly, watch your friends who have not done drugs b4 or who have never been out in large masses, i always keep a close eye and make sure they don't go over board. The people you bring to a party or come to a party with are in one way or another partly resonsible for you and in turn you for them, and if not you have to ask yourself why are you doin dangerous drugs with people you don't feel would help you or take care of you. I mean have never taken my younger sister to a party (Maybe an afterhours) but never some place where she would be outta sight, especially if she did drugs ( not that she does) and was at the plaza. All it takes is a bit of common sense people, everyone can go to big or small parties and choose to or not to do drugs and still have a good time. I do hope that the girl is alright.. Last edited by Mr.Sinister; Apr 24, 03 at 12:57 PM.
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Yes she made a stupid choose, but by the second cap she probably didn’t know what she was doing.
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Apr 24, 03
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Hey KandyKid. Your profile says you were born in '84 and have been partying for 2 years. That means you started going to raves when you were oh, SIXTEEN.
Do you realize how little a difference there is between 15 and 16? So yes, siding with Rhianna, you sound like an idiot. All of you bashing this girl for being so young and stupid, take a look back to when you went to your first party. I KNOW some of you were even younger than 15 when you did that first cap of E so please just stfu. We were all young and stupid once, and most of us still are.
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Apr 24, 03
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ok if your going ot do drugs, be educated about it.
age limits could be a good thing, but its not gonna stop the problme of 15 year old girls\boys od-ing on drugs... its just gonna push the problem into another corner. od's happen at house parties, and at clubs... its just doesnt hit the media.. the media dont care unless if the story can carry... havin a girl od on e at a rave.... its a headliner... havin her od in someone's house? well then you can actually point the finger at the person or tehir parents and not at the plaza or whatever venue it may be at. as long as there are drugs, there are going to be od's. you cant blame the venue and you cant really blame the parents... you blame the person who popped. people gotta stand up for the actions, realize what reactions are and make some real choices.
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Apr 24, 03
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some people are just fucking idiots and don't know how to handle there drugs . and I don't care how played out plaza is getting I still enjoy it once in a while. too many politics in raving. its suppost to be all about the music remember!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who cares where it is and who goes. if u hate 15 year old being than thats ur own problem. I go out with the intesions of having some fun listening to some dope beats and thats it. anyways peace out!
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Apr 24, 03
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^^u can hate on plaza all u like. as long as I can say good things about plaza. haha.
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What most of you people don't understand is that the only reason i'm bitter towards the scene right now is because i'm so disgusted with some of the stuff i've seen happen due to it... I don't mean to insult any of your own personal opinions on the matter i'm just a stubborn person who can't really see past my own thoughts... I just wish drugs hadn't become so popular in the recent years...so many people are getting fucked over because of them...and it's extrememly sad.
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No no...maybe it was the voice in her head. ARREST THE VOICE!! "VOICE IN HEAD- YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED MUDER" Yet again- i strengthen my leave-drugs-alone motto
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Apr 24, 03
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^^ You just shut the fuck up right now. You're only a few months older than my courtney dear, and she HAS been partying for a long time. Longer than me and I'm a good 2+ years older than she is.
You're the one hiding behind your avatar.. "mashin the youngins" Well you're a youngin' yourself.
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Apr 24, 03
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but you know what...i kindly ask that you refrain from insulting me... pose questions, not anger
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Apr 24, 03
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hahahahha buddy seriously here, don't even give me that bullshit.
You didn't even respond to my post. Why, because I have a point and you don't? So you pick apart my reply in a sad attempt at defending yourself? You're young, you're a noob, and you have no right attacking Courtney with this "you're only 16" comment when you're in the exact same position. Thanks.
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Apr 24, 03
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Don't come here and rant away as it'll do nothing in the end but fall on deaf ears. If you are disgusted with what you see and think that young teenagers are retarded to do what they do then do something about it. Join Dancesafe and promote education in the scene, make a presentation at your school about the bad side of drugs, be a narc, do something positive and feel better about it. I applaud your position and do feel pity that a 15 year old has to suffer because of a poor decision she made on her part, but the past is the past and there is nothing we can do now but learn from it and move on. In all honesty I'm tired of hearing the rant over and over again and to be quite frank, people are just going to clue you out if you don't change how you come across. Just my $0.02 I'm blunt as a spoon.... blunt as a spoon...
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p - peace - may you find it in your heart l - love - for yourself and others u - unity - divided we fall but together we stand r - respect - for drugs, nature, and eachothers beliefs *hugs everyone *
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