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Everyone is bring up some good points, although I'd just like you to add that you don't HAVE to be gay, and that you can become hetero again.
I found this very inspiring  Crying Behind the Mask Rebekah Johnston In November 1983, I was sitting in a lesbian bar in Seattle. My lover was dancing with another woman. As I painfully watched her flirting with the other woman, I heard an audible voice. When I looked up, there was powerful presence standing next to the table where I was sitting. Jesus spoke, "My child what are you doing here?" The voice was so real. "I have so much better planned for you than the false security and identity that you live in now." As I looked out onto the dance floor, I saw the most incredible vision: all the smiling faces turned to wax and started to melt. The laughter stopped. The Holy Spirit revealed to me that the broken hearts behind the smiling masks were not really laughing at all. More important was the reality that my heart was also scarred and broken.
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you need to re-look at those 'rules' you're talking about. yes the catholic religion and the wonderful pope say being gay is wrong. but christianity is much different and so are the many other religions out there. there is nothing in the jewish religion that says it's wrong. most of it is just interpretation and some churches being afraid to change practices and get with the times. there is no 'rule' that being gay is wrong in the christian eyes, as there are many christian churches that recognize gay rights. it's all very individual and not any one 'rule' that is set in stone. most people get from religion what they want to get from it. there are murders who are very religious, yet murder is wrong according to religion. people brake religion 'rules' every day and they can still call themselves christian. what's the difference?
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that leaves very few true catholics, dontcha think? it's funny how most religious people choose the 'rules' they want to live by, but when someone else tries to break a 'rule' that they believe in they step in and say something. don't make me yawn.
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yes. i'm just pretending to be gay. i CHOSE to be gay. i chose to live my life where some people hate me just because of who i sleep with. where i can't hold hands with my boyfriend on the street because some people might want to hurt me if i do. where just the issue of me marrying someone is a huge political/relgious debate. yeah, i totally chose a life like that. don't you know how idiotic that sounds? why the hell would i choose to be gay when there is so much historical stigma attached to it? i'm fine with being gay now...but if there had been a pill that would have made me straight during highschool, i probably would have taken it. not now though.
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just because you happen to belong to a church doesn't mean you agree with or follow every "rule" that is set out by that church. there are lot's of straight couples who want to get married in a church but in their regular life, don't follow any particular churches teachings. but they can still get married in a church. even so if you want to get married in a catholic or anglican church. technically only one of the couple needds to be baptised. which happens as a child yes? something you have no control over. (much like sexual preference, but that's another arguement) you take a few marriage classes and there you are. church wedding. isn't it worse for a couple who has little to no belief in the religion of the establishment they are getting married in, rather than another couple who does belive but just happen to be gay?
Not all gay people want to be married in a church. just as not all straight people do. gay people do not have a secret agenda, they just want what any other person wants. straight people are just lucky enough to be on the "popular" side.
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Whether people do what the religion says, or don't, doesnt mean the religion should say being gay is alright. People break the rules all the time, i'm catholic and I cant say i have followed the rules 100% but the religion is still the same.
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Your not allowed to get married in a catholic church if u admit to not wanting kids ever. Or if you admit to having sex before marriage. But people do anyways but its not because the Church says, ahh well lets marry them anyways, its cause they dont tell the truth. I know a catholic who couldnt get married in church cause he told the priest he didn't want kids, the priest said why do you want to get married if you dont want kids. This is the way some relgions think. So he had to get married elsewhere but not in a church
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you are catholic, but don't obey all the catholic rules, but still consider yourself a catholic. who died and made you god? why do you get to decide to obey some rules of the catholic faith, yet ignore other rules? if you can do that (like probably the majority of catholics out there), then why can't gay catholics do that too? why can't they choose to ignore the gay 'rule' in the catholic religion, but obey other rules. how is that any different then you having sex before marriage or using a condom? you're still breaking a rule that the catholic church has established. the only difference is is that it's a rule that you don't want to follow. you wanna get your freak on with a chick before you marry her, so you decide that rule of the catholic religion is out-dated and shouldn't apply to you. how's that different than a gay person decided that the 'no gays allowed' rule is out-dated and shouldn't apply to them? you know that pink-grey blob floating around in your skull? you should use it more.
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No No, i follow my religion very strongly, but i do admit it is very hard to follow it 100%. Little rules will always be broken but, but relgions look at gay people has breaking a rule everyday of there lives. I dont mean to offend you tho i'm just speaking of how some relgions view gays
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i always thought 'no sex before marriage' was a big rule; same with 'no birth control'. i mean, if they were such little rules...why would people be debating them all the time? don't you see that you're minimizing the rules of the catholic religion that YOU don't want to live by? you're saying 'little rules will always be broken'. but those aren't 'little' rules. it seems like you just want to believe they are little, because you don't want to live by them. same diff, buddy.
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Name a single christian that doesn't do something their religion denounces and I'll name you an oblivious liar.
It's possible to be both Christian and Gay. The United Church and the Anglican Church both perform same-sex marriages. It's a shame that the ones that are so hearty about "We're the only right religion" are also the ones that are all "Gay marriage wrong" Kinda sucks for gay people, huh? They're either damned, or they're damned. This is why I stopped being a Christian. I like Jesus. It's his fan club that pisses me off.
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Every single catholic on the face of the earth breaks countless rules in the bible every day of their lives.
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