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Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr
Avana now you're arguing just for the sake of arguing and no offense but your argument is getting weaker with every post. I know you don't like to back down but Godessa IS right when she says that you're assuming too much in this situation.
You're going on about 'whining on FnK' but in all fairness I need to point out two things:
1) It's not like she's the ONLY person who has ever whined about something (serious or otherwise) on this website.
2) You're not a saint and I'm SURE in your years of posting on message boards you've whined yourself once or twice.... so you are being a wee bit hypocritical.
I'm not trying to stir the pot but from what I see a lot of people are making really HARSH and UNFAIR assumptions about a girl who has been fucked over. I don't expect a lot of you to understand I guess seeing as most of you don't have children (THANK GOD FOR THAT MIGHT I ADD).
You also go on about having children with your SO. Do you not think that she might have considered her partner her SO? Put it back to my situation.... am I some sort of dick just because I had my child out of wedlock? Kieran's mom was most definitely my SO at the time. SHIT HAPPENS.... and the fact that only a few of you seem to understand this just doesn't make sense to me. The only difference between her situation and mine is that I lvoe my son and I took care of what was mine. She wasn't so lucky.... the guy turned out to be a loser who couldn't man up. For the life of me I can't see how that would be her fault. Sure a few of you can make smartass comments about it being Crazy Dave and she should have known better but in reality none of us know what he may have said/been like when it was just the two of them. My guess is he came off as a totally different guy at that point and she was pretty much duped. You're all missing the bottom line here... she takes care of her kids by herself. She LOVES her kids and she wants the best for them.... she's been screwed a bit so let her vent.
You all may see it as whining but I see it more so as a cry for help, as cliched as it sounds. This girl might be out there doing what she can to rectify the situation but in the same respect she probably feels really alone and cheated and hurt. You all need a wake up call to the harsh realities of life. Trust me, for a lot of you, once the soother has been removed from your mouth and you have to experience some REAL life hardships...you very well might change your attitude. At the very least I hope you will because with so many people out there with an attitude like some of yours.... that leaves the world in a pretty sad state.
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You are right Shawn, I said I was making an assumption. And yes, I have whined on a message board, about things like traffic, and scene whores. Deep, huh?
Try as you might, you will not find anything about my personal life on FNK, or any other message board for that matter. As much as many of the people on this board are my friends, I wouldn't be as impersonal to put out a cry for help on FNK.
I am not on Daves side in this, but we haven't heard his side of the story. And you are sitting here making assumptions about him based on the way he posts. You stated yourself somewhere in this jumble of bullshit that you didn't know Dave personally.
My belief is to not have children out of wedlock. I never said you are a dick. You are a parent I admire, along with two of my best childhood friends who are both stuck in the same situation. Like yourself though, they are pro-active about it. They don't bitch about the fathers, they just deal with it as it comes. I may not have children, but my friends are definately leading by example.
I may be harsh, umempathetic, unsympathetic, or just plain a bitch but I still offered her advice on how to deal with him, the proper way. And if he really is a dick, and he really doesn't want to be in the childs life but has to pay child support for the child, then it is going to force him to realise that he should be in the kids life, or really tick him off.
Feb 23, 06
