Would you support opening the border to young Americans so we can escape Bush's hell?

[rawb]

okay well it's nice to hear you have no real immediate problems, you are just shook.

not your fault your entire country is ruled by fear.

[narc]

And here I was lead to believe that Ashes wanted to seek asylum in Canada after all those border incidents.


*sigh*

Originally Posted by rawb

okay well it's nice to hear you have no real immediate problems, you are just shook.

not your fault your entire country is ruled by fear.

American Daisy producers are the next targets for terrorism, then it'll be the water, then the rx drugs, then ......

[dapimpstress]

As if you have no fears of the future of your own economy.

[rawb]

not really, no matter what dickhead you morons choose to run your country you will still overconsume and be wasteful. that's just more money for us. it's not like you're going away.

[BongMan]

Originally Posted by Ashes

That may be true however I am talking about the here and now.

HAHAHA you dumbass you do know Canada is the second largest exporter of Oil to the US As proof I can only find the 2001 reports but I am pretty sure that Canada has dropped to 2 in favor of the Middle East. Also found the 2002 where we are third. Just think what would happen if we diverted our supplies elsewhere US economy would be screwed.

The USA imports about 55% of its oil needs.

Sources of U.S. Oil Imports (millions of barrels per day, 2001): Canada: 1.79 - Saudi Arabia: 1.66 - Venezuela: 1.54 - Mexico: 1.42 - Nigeria: .86 - Iraq: .78 - Norway: .33 - Angola: .32 - United Kingdom: .31 - Total: 11.62. (Source: Energy Information Administration).

Sources of U.S. Oil Imports (%, 2002): Saudi Arabia: 16.9% - Mexico: 15.1% - Canada: 15.0% - Venezuela: 14.4% - Iraq: 11.4% - Nigeria: 5.9.%.

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by BongMan

HAHAHA you dumbass you do know Canada is the second largest exporter of Oil to the US As proof I can only find the 2001 reports but I am pretty sure that Canada has dropped to 2 in favor of the Middle East. Also found the 2002 where we are third. Just think what would happen if we diverted our supplies elsewhere US economy would be screwed.

The USA imports about 55% of its oil needs.

Sources of U.S. Oil Imports (millions of barrels per day, 2001): Canada: 1.79 - Saudi Arabia: 1.66 - Venezuela: 1.54 - Mexico: 1.42 - Nigeria: .86 - Iraq: .78 - Norway: .33 - Angola: .32 - United Kingdom: .31 - Total: 11.62. (Source: Energy Information Administration).

Sources of U.S. Oil Imports (%, 2002): Saudi Arabia: 16.9% - Mexico: 15.1% - Canada: 15.0% - Venezuela: 14.4% - Iraq: 11.4% - Nigeria: 5.9.%.

No shit man. I am not a "dumbass" and I was not talking about oil. I was talking about MONEY in CORPORATIONS.

RAWB- GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. Though we consume alot, it is the entire world that is consuming resources at 8 TIMES what the earth can support. That means YOU too.

[BongMan]

America is a bigger chunk of that group then anyone else then I believe China is runnin up in second now or a close third they have just blown up latley..

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by BongMan

America is a bigger chunk of that group then anyone else then I believe China is runnin up in second now or a close third they have just blown up latley..

Yeah China's bout ta rock some shit serious styl.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by Ashes

Why do I have this bullshit dayjob? Because I'd be UTTERLY FUCKED if I didn't. With the cost of healthcare without insurance, alone, that's enough to make you want to work in an environment where they provide sufficient benefits.

Just because I sit here, posting hella, doesn't mean I'm not doing other things. Like writing letters to my Congress everytime I can saying how this or that bill should or shouldn't be passed. Like going to weekly meetings to promote awareness of the serious situation our economy is currently in.

And frankly, my life has not changed at this moment THAT much, I'm not going to say not at all because that would be untrue, I am more worried about the upcoming changes that are in the process of happening.

I don't want to be STUCK here. That is the bottom line reason for wanting to leave now, or soon. I don't want the borders to get closed and not be able to leave if I was so inclined. I would rather leave now than be trapped in the jail of a sickly country.

just curious.
base on ppl u kno,
how many feel the way u do?
do u have family/friends in mid-west or eastern states?
if so, do they have the same outlook as u regarding what's been discussed so far?

[rawb]

Originally Posted by Ashes

RAWB- GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. Though we consume alot, it is the entire world that is consuming resources at 8 TIMES what the earth can support. That means YOU too.

that's not the point eyebrows. we're selling to you.

[wum]

they're all just pulling your chain Ashes. most Canadians would totally welcome American refugees

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by rawb

that's not the point eyebrows. we're selling to you.

Why are you calling me "eyebrows"? Whatever, works over, thanks for the somewhat interesting and mostly confrontational comments.

>>stephen c-

I do not have family in the mid-west thank GOD. But my man does. And he recently went there and was entirely relieved to come home.

Sounds like its a bible thumping freak show out there, and everyones just going along for the ride. It's mostly people on the coasts that feel this way... And alot of younger people of course. My grandparents aren't all about whats' going on but they don't feel as strongly as I do that it needs to change. I wouldn't live in the midwest if someone paid me to.

[rawb]

watch out, i hear it's like somalia in downtown seattle, YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER

[diva]

Originally Posted by Ashes

Obviously YOU do not understand. REGAURDless of the fact that we have 300 million people, that does NOT mean that moving to a more "liberal" area is going to do ANYTHING. I live in Seattle, WA girl, THE MOST liberal place in the country.

So what non drug related rights of yours have been taken away?

Seems to me that most of Bush's antics have to do with international policy and kidnapping people who look like they're going to blow shit up and locking them up in guantanamo bay without pressing any charges.

You are a WASP (most likely) living in Seattle. Give it up and go cry me a river.

I get it.

I still don't agree that Canada should take in Americans. Most of you didn't even vote in your last election.

And if you don't want to live there, you can begin the process to trying to immigrate to Canada; but contrary to wum's beliefs, you probably wouldn't get in due to your lack of education and skills.

I'm not saying that we should take an anti-american stance. I just think you guys shouldn't get special treatment when it comes to the immigration process.

[diva]

Originally Posted by Ashes

ps- We own 70% of you. I.E. Our downfall will lead to yours. Just a thought.

LOLOLOL

holy shit

you're dimmer than a 20 watt lightbulb
=*(


ps. 99% chance that i'm moving to the states in september. IT'S TOO BAD MY COUNTRY WONT TRADE ME FOR YOU

LOL

pps. i wonder what wum and ashes' children would think like if the two of them ever reproduced. i wonder how coitus between wum and ashes would even work...considering that wum's religious beliefs (and paranoia) would probably prevent him from getting fully naked and ashes' left wing ideology would translate into some pretty freaky sexual demands.
wow.
it's like trying to picture what's outside the universe! my brain hurts.

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

And if you don't want to live there, you can begin the process to trying to immigrate to Canada; but contrary to wum's beliefs, you probably wouldn't get in due to your lack of education and skills.

but she's white

[stephen_c]

^
we already kno wum/thumper.
u don't like black ppl.
u don't like chinese ppl.
u don't like gay ppl.
u only like white ppl.
u don't have to advertise it every 5 seconds.

[diva]

Originally Posted by rawb

not really, no matter what dickhead you morons choose to run your country you will still overconsume and be wasteful. that's just more money for us. it's not like you're going away.

that's what this girl doesn't seem to get.
you guys had shitty health care, shitty environments, shitty education systems and shitty bear way before bush ever came into power.

the only thing i can see changing with a new president would be the unjustified bombing of countries and the secret kidnappings of innocent civilians <----seriously, why don't people focus on that? 400 people have "disappeared" since 9/11 and are being held without any charges in guantanamo bay. that shit boggles my mind, you. it's like that movie where people were arrested before they committed a crime because the government had the ability to predict the future. it makes about as much sense as that.

[wum]

how is that you're blaming Ashes for everything that's going bad with her country?

[diva]

Originally Posted by Ashes

Why are you calling me "eyebrows"? .

He means your eyebrows are shit.

Like you need a pair of $30 tweezermans, STAT.

[diva]

Originally Posted by wum

how is that you're blaming Ashes for everything that's going bad with her country?

if you can blame immigrants and gays for everything that's going wrong with our country, we can blame ashes.

:P

[wum]

Don't listen to the haters Ashes!

[sungoo]

We should have a new rule where who's ever side wum takes, is absolutely wrong.

and as far as ashes saying she owns 70% of us...
wow that's laughable.
It's so annoying to hear how these americans think that they somehow fuel canada's economy. As rawb stated earlier, canada and the US have a symbiotic relationship. It'd be difficult for either of us to live without each other. And those who imply that we need america's army to defend our country... those claims are B.S. wtf, if we weren't connected to the US, who would attack us? The UN would come to our aid if we were invaded at any time. the mere fact that we're neighbouring countries creates more risks. Shit, if the US didn't go ahead and kill/oppress so many people, I doubt they'd be in the trouble they're in now.

this thread kinda reminds me of the indonesia thread.
Really, no offense but there are more deserving people of our help then whiny americans. I'd much rather have refugees from war torn countries that are in risk of death and have little to none human rights, then whiny americans who dislike their president and have a fear of going to jail cause the federal government has stated they can't smoke pot anymore.

and as for the draft... yeah... there is more proof of fear. The dumbest thing your government could do is have a draft. I have no doubt in my mind that people across the US would rather go to jail and fight the system then go over seas and shoot kids. like someone stated, there'd definately be a coup.

p.s. rawb, I still can't give you karma.

[wum]

what's ironic is people rejecting Ashes, who might have to escape traumatic circumstances in the future, blaming her on her country's condition and telling her to stick it out, when many of them hail from Third World dungeons themselves

[(val)Liam]

all I think ashes was trying to say was that a lot of american corporations are buying out canadian business... "The Vanishing Country" by Mel Hurtig goes into this...