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  #201 (permalink)  
Old Apr 17, 06
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Originally Posted by Harp
under the dj union code all dj's must wear approved steel toe shoes and hard hats just incase a speaker might fall on yahI if it does, you'd better MOVE ;)
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Originally Posted by Bass Junkiez
not only that, but WCB says - proper eye wear must be worn as CD and or records might come flying at your while your doing your typical spin back and or ejecting your cd too FAST.
LATEST UPDATE:

The WCB has added a two new rules to the performing DJs' safety act list:

- Birth control (such as condoms and the Mini-Pill) must be used at all times while performing. The WCB will NOT be responsible for any damaged genes that may be transfered through various sexual acts while performing a live DJ set.

- Pill testing kits must be present at each event in order to minimize the amount of unwanted overdose incidents. The WCB will NOT be covering patients that consumed adulterated pills.
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Old Apr 17, 06
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^ Dammit, i wish i knew about the birth control sooner :(

lol
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  #203 (permalink)  
Old Apr 17, 06
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Evolve : when you guys booked us for your shows you guys have paid us right away and even wrote to us on FNK that our money is ready.
Yes I did. Btw, I didn't get paid for Vinyl Tap. With interest, that'll be like 5 bills. Pay up or I start making threads ;)
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Old Apr 17, 06
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Originally Posted by Akeel
if dj's were paid based on skills this would be a very different ball game.
I'd be rich....
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Old Apr 17, 06
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damn !

30 mins of reading later..

wutever happend to DJ`ing for sluts & booze!



i personally DJ for a living now as well. Being paid out is obviously a must.

However I have noticed that working in the club / rave scene has its huge differences.

Hate to say this .. but Club Promoters are way more on point when it comes to paying out. You always get your full amount on any given night.

In the Rave scene .. it almost depends on how well the party does. Which in my opinion is garbage. Lot of promoters will use you based on your "ticket sales" - which is more bullshit.

Wont say any names. . but im sure ppl know wut im talkin about.

most of the promoters in vancouver are good ppl .. I personally havent had a bad run in w/ anyone yet .. but i can see how it can happen so easily.

Contracts are the way to go .
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Old Apr 17, 06
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^ 30 mins?

I think i just spent 50 minutes reading every post waiting for chicken to get cooked.

but ya to some DJ-ing is there work. If they are deserving and have worked the hard hours to get to where they are shouldn't they be paid that amount.

but ya i'm just gonna go back to reading. Good posts in here. Every few pages there is a post or two thats not exactly worth reading though.

Attila's rep just keeps on plummeting.
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  #207 (permalink)  
Old Apr 17, 06
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Yes I did. Btw, I didn't get paid for Vinyl Tap. With interest, that'll be like 5 bills. Pay up or I start making threads ;)

um please no not on here... not on fnk please no....
i might get in touch with you in a couple of weeks.... maybe..lol

no better yet call CTV news and start it on there maybe it needs more attention...
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Old Apr 17, 06
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damn ! wutever happend to DJ`ing for sluts & booze!
Im all over this!
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Old Apr 17, 06
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um please no not on here... not on fnk please no....
i might get in touch with you in a couple of weeks.... maybe..lol

no better yet call CTV news and start it on there maybe it needs more attention...
I'll just blackmail you with those pix I have of you and Chris ;)
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Old Apr 17, 06
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Originally Posted by FireWire

- Pill testing kits must be present at each event in order to minimize the amount of unwanted overdose incidents. The WCB will NOT be covering patients that consumed adulterated pills.

Now are you saying there are wanted overdoes incidents as well? yarrr
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Old Apr 17, 06
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Old Apr 17, 06
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I'll just blackmail you with those pix I have of you and Chris ;)
dont even go there alje! i'm thinking it was more like u and chris on stage! dont ask how i got involved.. haha
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Old Apr 17, 06
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Old Apr 17, 06
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Originally Posted by stimulant j
i personally DJ for a living now as well. Being paid out is obviously a must.

However I have noticed that working in the club / rave scene has its huge differences.

Hate to say this .. but Club Promoters are way more on point when it comes to paying out. You always get your full amount on any given night.

In the Rave scene .. it almost depends on how well the party does. Which in my opinion is garbage. Lot of promoters will use you based on your "ticket sales" - which is more bullshit.
That right there is the difference.

Personally, you're not going to go anywhere playing at a majority of the parties thrown around vancouver. All you're going to do is have headaches and problems.

Why?

Professionalism.

Not to say that there aren't any sleazy people pulling stuff in the nightclub industry. But it's a much regular occurence with these small time people throwing parties. In the nightclub industry it's strictly business from the get go. Amounts are set prior to playing, and a majority of the time a written contract is involved.

By screwing over your talent, you're only hurting yourself.

Word travels quick in an industry like this, it doesn't take long for a promoter or night club to get black listed.

Professionalism and respect are two things that should always be at the forefront.

Ultimately it's up to the talent in this city to decide.
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Old Apr 17, 06
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A verbal contract is still a contract. A true business man would act ethically and still honor that verbal contract. Before anyone jumps on me for this, I am not necessarily talking about the current situation. Despite what people may think, ethical business practices work quite well.

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Originally Posted by b0ld
It still cease's to amaze me that one has the nerve to bitch, whine, kick, and scream at a promoter (especially on a board) because they didn't get paid accordingly and not use the god damn brains to make a contract. If you don't make a contract then you leave yourself vulnerable and its ONLY your fault. A businessman take's advantage of people who want to do business yet there is no paper work and once when the job has been completed and the person tries to collect they have absolute no backing at all. Sure you make friends in the industry but when it comes down to business then business should be done. So if your serious about getting paid for what you do then think about it, secure your own investment.
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Old Apr 18, 06
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Originally Posted by miss.myra
to clarify evolve/atilla is certainly NOT the only promotion company that has shafted their talent as far as pay and treatment is concerned (trust me, i've heard far worse than what has been posted in this thread), i just think a lot of dj's are afraid to speak up when they get fucked over because they don't want to burn their bridges. it's a shame because dj's have every right to fight for what they are worth and what they have invested time and money into ESPECIALLY if a show is pulling in a fair amount of money.
Exactly. Well at least I dont have to worrie about playing for Attilla again

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Originally Posted by b0ld
Arguing is not going to solve anything only action. At this point especially arguing on a board that promoters frequent alot, your probably on the verge of digging your own hole and nobody going to want to book you because of this fiasco.... Sure the promoters will always say they are going over budget..... you think they are going to tell you give you signs here and there how there business is going??? Hell no they'll keep it to themselves. In reality shows always prove to be successful.... why??? well they end up throwing endless events after another. And even if they take a loss... you know what... thats part of business.... you win... you lose. In recent posts people have said "if a contract is involved the promoter will not book you" thats a load full of crap until you've tried it and even if they can't book you for an event they would probably have alot more respect to you and book you for either some other event where there is a signed contract because you want to do business.
I'm well aware im risking burning a hole for my reputation. However after speaking to a few very well respected promoters in this city about this topic... there well behind me in this one.

As for contracts, Dabbler made an excelent point about alot of promoters being 'freinds' and usualy a verbal contract is enough. I have delt with ALOT of big promoters in this city for over 5 years and I can only think of maybe 4 who have ever lied, bullshited, and broken promises with me.


The reason I made this post was to show Attila and DJ freinds of his that $100/hr is not unreasonable and money hungry. Some ppl seem to think that DJing should be done for free and that I should be thankful even just to play.
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Old Apr 18, 06
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Im with the DJ OK
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  #218 (permalink)  
Old Apr 18, 06
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Im still waiting for Kyle Nordman to post about DJing for fired chicken...


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Old Apr 18, 06
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for the DJs: make sure you discuss pay. Some DJs feel like they shouldn't have to talk about it and then get disappointed when they get nothing for playing even though they never really brought it up. I can understand if you're a n00b and just starting you'll take opening slots for free, but if you're even the least bit established and have a semi-decent fanbase in this city, don't sell yourself short.

for the promoters: make your initial budgets for your shows with paying the locals in mind damn you (and paying them more than $40 bucks). That should be standard practice yet i often don't see it from some promoters (no names). Seriously, if the night has been soft and not enough people showed up as expected, it's not the DJs fault that it was a bad turn of events or the promotion wasn't adequate enough.
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Old Apr 18, 06
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Originally Posted by Cheez
who's to say that nabs or any other newb wont be topping the world dj charts in a few years?

Common sense
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Old Apr 18, 06
Killer Kat
 
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BTW I dont know this Atilla fellow

But Ive never been charged 1 $ to get into an evolve party :)
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Old Apr 18, 06
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Common sense
yea its easy to rebutt just one part of what i said isnt?
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Old Apr 18, 06
Killer Kat
 
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Talent gets recognized

No matter what
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Old Apr 18, 06
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are you joking??????

fuck your clueless!

so i assume you think britney spears/any other shitty pop act is famous cos she's talented?

i dunno about you, but it hurt me to see Tipper open for the Dom stanton; he's 100x more talented than dom, or basically any other electronic dj for that matter, but Stanton's name sells, cos they put out a coupla catchy remixes.

or what about 99% of history's greatest artists/painters? they didnt get recognition till years (even centuries) after thier deaths!

i could really go on for hours about unrecognised talent in this world, but im not going to. just fill in the blanks yourself.
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Old Apr 18, 06
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I didnt say everyone that is famous has talent


I say that everyone who has talent gets recognized for it, if you dont, well I guess hes not that talented


Takes time and hard work but eventually people notice good things
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